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Merry Christmas to all.

It's the first time I've ever come here to post.

May all your blessing come true and thanks for putting up with me.

I'm not a rebel really, just a person who loves to write and thinks up the craziest things, so forgive me. I've been yelled at enough. Since when has that stopped me.

Happy New Year

I love you's

Evie

How many points or do they just pitch your script to the curb if its in an old screenplay format?

I could only afford the old Hollywood Screenwriter format it was only 45 bucks Final Draft and Movie Magic are over 250 bucks.

The contest judges do they use this against you cause in a free contest I got reemed for not having the right format. I was told my page numbers should have been an inch or something from the top of the page.

Just wondering if I should wait till I can turn enough tricks to purchase the more expensive and up to date formats?

Evie the newbie

If I'm writing a piece that takes place during a certain time in America, throw in a few historical facts just to make it look authentic, can't I make up what I want too?

I didn't change history.

Who's to say what went on in a small county in the mountains where the townspeople depended on each other to survive after the war.

Who's to say love doesn't rise above all the turmoil to link two people together.

Who's to say two people from opposites sides of a conflicted nation's struggle couldn't come to the conclusion that they're merely human.

I've been told it's highly unlikely that these two people would ever have gotten together because of the time period. There's no way it could happen, it's not believable cause it could never happen.

My stance is 'IT'S JUST A STORY!' a love story that happens to take place after the Civil War, in a small mountian area, between the most unlikely couple, who's to say it didn't happen?

Evie

What I'm trying to say in the story is love finds a way.

However I don't want to beat the racial issue too death I don't want the story only center on the race issue. The female saved her persecutor's life when she by all accounts shouldn't have he's taken with her and forever grateful.

Why beat the racial issue too death it's a given isn't it?

He calls her his salvation.

1865 Pace vs Alabama black man marries white woman court battle.

Can't a sistah get no respect, no props, can't a Confederate man love her back then or it's out of the question completely?

I'm not altering history their children didn't grow up to be Jimmy Carter's family or George Wallace's kin.

Evie

Did any of you ever see Candyman? What about that movie? I was told there were no educated blacks back in 1865, yes there were do you think the slaves that escaped north and stayed slaves and ingnorant? NOT

Janet, there are no true blacks in this country Massa was a busy man.

Of course the racial issue is there but it's not the main point.

Walt Disney did a movie with Eddie Murphy, the comedy about a house he inherited with the singing statues it showed the ghost's present not the past.

I took it one step further to show the soldiers past, why he haunts the woods waiting for his true love andf his decendant.

You know folks it would be different if I tried to hook Adolf Hitler to a black woman now that's impossible besides Hitler was an ugly little man no sister would have approached him.

We've had stories about Nazi men loving Jewish women, what the hell's the difference.

We've had High Chapperell, a white land owner marries a Mexican woman of wealth, I happened to like that series her brother Monolito was my favorite, you guys might be too young for that series.

But this is an American tale so why is it so impossible to have occured.

Remember the TV series Roots, John Boy from the Waltons marries a black woman of the time, I'm afraid I don't know how it ended.

I don't want to keep the racial issue in the fore front its in the background, I don't want to beat the whites over the head with that issue I would get tired of that myself.

Evie

IT'S ALL GOOD!

Thanks Ron B. for understanding what I'm trying to say. Thanks sooooo much.

evie

I'm sure if I want it made I have to do it myself, like Tyler Perry did. I'd like to see it as a TV series.

That's a good logline too, thanks a bunch.

I'm sorry Janet that this is turning into a heritage issue it wasn't meant to be.

I'll get that final draft or Movie magic when I hit the lottery. I'll take an elementary english class too, Mr. Swan before you get started.

thanks to everyone who's wading in.

Oh one more thing Janet as far as the accent. As an actress I've read scripts that were written in the language of the south. The lines were extremely hard for the actors to read.

Somethings you have to leave it up to the actor to make it work.

I had no idea this would blow up like this, scuse me folks. IT'S JUST A STORY, dag nab it, dat burn it.

If I'm not mistaken wasn't Thomas Jefferson having babies by his dead wife's mixed sister, didn't it become a movie with ms berry?

For the four thousands eight hundred billion sixty four ga-billion time Mr. Swan I'll go back to elementary school let the nuns kick my butt to learn where to use commas and periods, Mister English Major. OOOOKKKKAAAAYYYY

However Mr. Swan you read the story and never commented on the contents only the punctuation like all I had on the white page was commas and periods, just for you Mr. Swan here's your sign.

FADE IN

INT. WEB WINDOW DAY PRESENT/PAST

JUNE ......,,,,,,,......!

BUG ,,,,,,,,,.........,,,?

FADE OUT

by .... ,,,,

Ya big baby boy.

It is just a story about old time America which some folks need to know, I'm am certainly not the first to do this and I will not be the last.

Hey Janet I will put first page on whip out first page thing after I rethink it.

I need to be a little more specific about Jewel maybe call her a healer instead of a doctor even though her white father Dr. Gunther taught her doctoring from childhood. He does not claim her as his child but the whole town already knows she's his and his housekeeper Joy's.

this man I believe would have educated her and taught her manners and so forth and he would have wanted a suitable bow for his child, the white Confederate soldier cause she has no suitors.

thanks everyone for you positive response, except Mr. Swan,,,,,,,,.............,,,,,,,,,.....Good night Mr. Swan.

Dearest Janet,

Mr. Swan and I have a running argument he specifically told me he is always right and I am always wrong then told me he is never never serious so tell me if I should listen to him we have been comumunicating since last february of 2008 tell me Janet what I should do about Mr. Swan.

Anyways not wanting to get personal I'll truly keep in mind what I have seen and heard.

Gee wilmikers batman.

in the original script I didn't mention the past at all and the Capt was a general, I demoted him for the remix.

I'll think of something.

evie good night

Just my opinion for the kind of movies I like which is usually monster movies but here are some of them.

I thought Thunderheart was a good movie, The Cell with J Lo was a good movie, Rules of Engagment was a good movie, Three Kings was a good one, Alien was good although I didn't care for the third one on the prison planet, The Exorcist the one with George C. Scott in the mental hospital was good.

A movie called The Devil's Rejects was the worst movie ever I didn't get past the openning I thought it was a monster movie by the title but it's based on a true story, good Lord the openning is a naked dead woman being dragged through the woods then the man goes into the house and has women locked in animal cages oh my lord I stopped it and took it back immediately just in case these maniacs escape the DVD and get me.

I don't go to the show anymore cause there is absolutely nothing I want to see. No one is having that much sex and silliness.

I received an email from a member of Women in Film Dallas asking me to sign a petition that Quincy Jones is sending to Mr. Obama wanting him and Congress to create a position called the Secretary of the Arts.

I'm not quite sure what this person is suppose to do.

page: http://www.petitiononline.com/esnyc/petition.html

If you like check it out they even list the signatures of those who have already signed it.

thanks for your eyeball and brain time.

evie

Hey Ron,

Good, great and fantastic article.

As a memeber of women in film dallas, I did go to a producers lecture.

They're trying to sell to the male ages 13-24 for sure.

The woman from A&E had a sizzle tape of a new reality series that comes on soon called 'The Exterminator' a family of bugs, animals and lizards killers or releasers, the character driving the show is the owners mother, a loud hillbilly woman.

She said the show would attract the males. How could A&E put something like that on.

One of the producers was the maker of Bridezilla, she originally did the Rosanne show. I asked if they make anything for the older crowd who don't watch such shows, I was told know the demographics that you're going after which is now the younger crowd.

After the meeting I had so many people come up to me and say they were glad I asked that question cause they wanted to know the same thing.

I would never go see a movie where a teen puts his tallywacker in an apple pie. eewww

Evie

Hey Greg that's kinda the way I looked at it.

Don't we already have someone who does that?

And the last thing we need is another government official getting paid for nothing.

evie

An exciting congrats and kudo's to those of you who have risen to the top.

One day I'll make it but for right now you guys rule the day.

Congrats again

Evie

I'm insanely jealous!

Hey Janet,

Wasn't there a movie about India with Patrick Swayze where he's a doctor or something. I remember him riding through a torrential rain in some kind of rickshaw.

I would think if the powers that be wanted to see real poverty they would watch WorldVision, or Feed the Children, or the real horror in the Sudan on the nightly news, ya know the real stuff.

If movies are an escape from reality why go see something that makes you think of all the dreadful things in the world.

For instance Platoon, when the movie was over the audience left the theater in dead silence. I'm sure everyone thought the way I did, know wonder the vietnam vets came back messed up.

The movie franchise Saw saw one, saw two, saw three, and so on, that movie to me is the most disturbing movie since Friday the 13 with Jason the mindless dead man who murders teenager having sex in a vast variety of ways for absolutely no reason at all, he even went into outer space bacame nano steel strong and continues to kill people but they don't have to be teens or having sex.

On TCM I saw a movie with Joan Crawford a musical, I didn't know Joan could sing. She does her big number call 'Two Faced Woman', here's the kicker, she's in brown face and so are the other singers and dancers and the stage is set up like a speakeasy, what a hoot. I'll try to remember the name and let you know, the movie was interesting.

it's all good.

Evie

You're my hero.

Kudo's!

evie

Okay you hard rock men, what ever happened to the group called 'Yes' in particular a song called 'Long Distance Run Around'? They had other hits too but I can only remember this one.

Mostly Classical is my preference. However seeing as Unfinished Love Remix takes place in the south, country western, Bluegrass, that sort of stuff sometimes usually depends on the mood.

Mellisa Lambert, Dry Town caused I lived in one outside Chicago when I was flight attendant for United Airlines, now there's a story in itself.

I'm not that fancy with the computer music so Time/Warner Cable has Music Choice with all kinds of music so take your pick and you don't ever have to get up and change the dvd or the album. The latin music rocks when you need to let yo body move to get creative, cha cha cha!

it's all good.

evie

Okay guys which one of these is the best?

I looked them up on ebay and the price is reasonable the most expensive was Final Draft 7 something with syd field 169 bucks next was 135.99 then 127.

Movie Magic was about the same.

Write Movie Magic is seperate from Movie Magic pricing is similiar.

I don't know what the difference could be between these two.

You mean to tell me that this software allows you to put voices to your dialogue, that's sounds strange.

What does the 6.0 and the 7.1 and 7.0 mean the clarity of the type or bigger type?

Why so many different types of software to do the same thing?

Lost in the product jungle of life.

evie

is it all good? Okay it's all good

It sounds like they're all the same just different names.

I went to a screenwriters web and the same software went for 299 to 399 bucks why the big decrepancy or is ebay that much cheaper.

I've never used ebay before.

evie

Don't you have to register the thing with the company so you can get free upgrades. They usually want proof of purchase. My Hollywood Screenwriter I didn't register so I kinda messed my own self up.

On ebay it would say authorized dealer is there an unauthorized dealer?

Oh I guess that means I shouldn't buy it from someone's car trunk.

What is so different, they all tab to dialogue, hit tab twice to get to scene, tab voice over, tab this tab that. What extra tabs are there now that they keep changing it or is it that bottom page thing (more) (continued) (character still talking on next page), EXT. continued to next page but now INT.?

Oh its about making money, oh now I get it.

evie

it's all good

Hey ya'll,

After looking and reading all the fine print there were some sneaky things you had to pay close attention too.

Okay so what you're saying is there is no real difference in the software they all do the exact same thing that's good to hear.

The software on ebay seemed to be coming from a store, Bluebeard Ltd, Creative something, etc, etc, etc. I assume you're purchasing from a warehouse or something cause it tells you how many they have in stock, retail/customer service has always been my day racket so this kinda stuck out.

Maybe I'll just flip a coin to see which product I should get does that sound like a plan?

Evie

it's all good

Oh and another thing no offense but I wouldn't want to buy from someone on the site cause if something is wrong with it, (scratched, cracked, a shoe), I have to get all mad and pissed and miserable at everybody cause I'm childish like that and the world is against me, it's a conspiracy I know but thanks just the same this way I'll be mad at the store and I can go and slap someone personally because at my age I can do that.

Evie

Life, it's all good!

Maybe you need to title your email so that it gets their attention they have to be receiving lots of emails.

Something clever that stands out from all the other email titles, be creative show them you got skills.

Top of the day to you!

You're beautiful when your tired.

Here's a cup of stamina just for you.

And the crowd goes wild for a moment of your time.

A moment of silence, now breath you're good.

Something like that I guess would at least make them open it to see who the hell it is not that they'd answer but they might remember you.

evie

it's all good

hey Joseph,

Narrative is the kind of film where someone is telling the story in the background or am I mistaken?

evie

Hey ya'll,

Do we really have to have a sex scene in our stories, cause I don't have one.

I'm kinda tired of watching a scary movie where the monster is about to devour the stars and they're busy doing the do.

The second Underworld I think would have been just as good if I didn't have to see a butt naked werewolf and and every inch of the skinny butt naked female vampire, they don't leave much for the imagination. I didn't buy the second one.

There is an M&M commercial where the green lady M&M films a commercial with the male M&M filming. She wears a boa and high heals walks and lays around very provocatively melting the red M&M, the yellow one is speechless and the blue one is stunned.

Sex and Candy, I happen to like M&M's especially the ones with the nuts but if my candy is in the candy store getting down and dirty with the other candies thats disturbing.

Beowoulf was a good flick we got to see him naked (animated), but what I don't understand is why we only saw his butt never a full frontal view? We got a look at the Jolie character full view, you mean to tell me that the animators couldn't come up with a way to package Beowoulf's package to view. There was always something in the way, a cup, an elbow, a pole, always something and the damn thing was animated dag nabbit.

So is sex still selling? It doesn't matter I'm not going to put a sex scene in it, it's not necessary, I do have a beheading though that should cover it, huh?

evie

it's all good!

Yeah Adam and Eve have to be naked cause long time ago in a movie called the Bible it was the first time a man appeared naked but you didn't see anything but you can't show them doing the nasty until AFTER they eat the apple cause they didn't have to to the do they just thought about it, I think I wasn't there until later.

evie

it's all good

Oh Terry thanks for the information. I thought it was one of those types where there's someone talking over the film telling you things, okay I get it now.

so much to know and not enough free space I guess I'll have to delete some memory.

Evie

it's all good, I think?

It's the stangest thing, all the writer magazines or webs all mention Final Draft first not Movie Magic.

I guess Final Draft has cornered the market huh?

evie

I went to this web site and boy oh boy you better know what you're doing, they want a budget, if you become a semi finalist you must make a three minute sample film.

Go for it you've got nothing to loose and everything to gain.

evie

It's all good

Hey Ron,

Don't worry the second one's naughty werewolf/vampire love scene last too long and of course you see more of the woman than the man like 300 you saw more of the Queen than you did of the spartan king, bummer.

Most of the teen movies have some kind of sex scene and they have the nerve to ask if movies are teaching the kids too much about sex. Ya think?

Do we really need sex to sell chewing gum?

evie

it's not all good

If you need horror music get the halloween soundtracks I got one called the Asylum and there is one piece of music that is so beautiful you wonder why it's on the cd.

Doesn't it depend on what you're trying to write? If you're writing a prison script I doubt you'd listen to Fiddler on the Roof?

evie

it's all good

Well Ron I could see using sex to sell a car cause that's where most of the children's lives began and lots of teen experiementing goes on oopps.

When I worked at Target as a cashier a gentleman came through my line with some type of seafood claims it was for his wife an aphrodisiac (I wonder if i spelled it right) afro DC ack, close enough. I said there's no food that will make you horny, you're either a horny toad or you're not. He laughed.

Don't mention oysters cause the only thing they would do is make your breath stink.

Okay everyone I'm sorry it's late and I'm reading Capt. Morgan's diary Ahoy me mattie.

evie

yeah that was all good

Ever listen to the soundtrack for the XBox 360 game called Halo it is a very beautiful piece of music but why they would use it for a game of shooting everything that moves is beyond me.

evie

Thank you soooo much,

I went and found the celtx program I'm a happy camper now, I have a script writing program, oh boy I can do it right now, yeepie.

I tried to read the agreement but it of course didn't make sense to me all the legalese. I figure since some of you used it it must be all good. You never mentioned your screenplays being kidnapped.

Now all I have to do is get started.

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

May God sit on your pillow!

evie

it just got better

Don't know much about the Civil War: Everything you need to know about America's gretest conflict but never learned. by Kenneth C. Davis.

Quote,'Despite the Civil War, few white historians were willing to recognize the achievements of blacks.'

Wikipeida 'The Yellow Rose of Texas' this woman was somehow written out of history but not totally and they gave her a bad rep ta boot.

In my story what's more important to hate or to eat, blacks and whites have to rebuild the town after the devastation of war they have to live.

evie

Can we trust what the historian wrote about us.

'1860 Southeners owned a total of about four million slaves.' quotes the book.

Hey Janet,

The Yellow Rose of Texas would make a great story, but I'd have to make it myself.

I didn't know ms berry made a movie like this. Did you try 'imdb' if it exists they would know where you could find it.

I'm originally from Cleveland, Ohio I've been out here for five years and I love it Confederates and all. I'm having a ball here living my second half of life.

'Well-meaning Northerners who came south to assist blacks and open schools estabished some of the leading black colleges in the South. And for the first time in American history blacks gained political power, providing the votes that elected Grant and putting the first blacks in Congress. Mississippi sent two Black men to the Senate. Blanche Bruce was a former slave, and Hiram Revels, a clergyman...'

'The simple fact that men who had a few years earlier been in chains were now voting and sitting in the Congress was an astonishing, revolutionary event, albeit a short-lived one.'

Excerpts from the book by Kenneth C. Davis, DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT THE CIVIL WAR Everything you need to know about America's Greatest Conflict but never learned. copyright 1997

Even though I made my character names up you'll never guess that Thaddeus Calhoun one of my characters name is in this book, not altogether but two different men.

1865 Congressman THADDEUS Stevens of Pennsylvania urges the confiscation of the estates of Confederate leaders and the distribution of their lands to adult freedmen in forty-acre lots.

1836 Congress is presented with abolitionist petitions aimed at oulawing slavery in Washington DC. Senator John C. CALHOUN of South Carolina rejects them as "foul slanders" on the South.

Spooky ain't it

evie

Hey Janet,

Believe it or not the person has since sorta changed his mind.

Believe it or not he says now he's actually enjoying the quote "clandestine relationship between them" He's getting the script twenty pages at a time so he doesn't have the whole story.

Janet I think it's just because they don't know history just like the younger black generation doesn't know we were more than just slaves and that not everybody owned slaves.

It's all good I'll tell both sides.

Hey Ya'll,

Anyone ever tried this application.

I want to buy it cause I'm too lazy to learn proper punctuation myself let a software program do it.

It looks good and I watched the demo it sounds pretty good or is it too good to be true?

evie

it's going to get gooder!

Hey Ya'll

I don't know what happened but the first blog got kicked off so I'll change the heading.

I found a grammar software called White Smoke English Grammar software it sounds to good to be true.

It actually fixes your punctuation so I don't have to go back to school.

Has anyone used it before and if so how was it?

evie

it's all gooder

Hey Ya'll

I don't know what happened but the first blog got kicked off so I'll change the heading.

I found a grammar software called White Smoke English Grammar software it sounds to good to be true.

It actually fixes your punctuation so I don't have to go back to school.

Has anyone used it before and if so how was it?

evie

it's all gooder

Hey there,

It doesn't write for you it just tells you where to put the dag gon comma's as aposed to periods.

thanks teacher dude.

evie

gooder it be.

Ahh 'scuse me, if you're trying to break into the Hollywood script mill, wouldn't it be better not to trash the very people you're trying to attract?

Like the acting business that I'm familiar with, it's a dog it dog, cat licking cat and cow vs cow, you don't piss off the director who decides who gets the part you kiss up to the powers that be.

Ron has it right just think if it was your money and your reputation what would you do?

I suggest we all play the lottery or let's go outside the US, you'd be surprised how many TV series that you're watching come out of Canada, so maybe we should look to the north.

evie

its all good

It's impossible to get to a name brand actor, you have to go through their agents and the agents tell you they do not look at unrequested scripts believe me I tried to get to Angela Bassett and was promptly told 'no unsolicited scripts were wanted.

I chose Raven-Symone to play Jewel only because if I want the younger audience she's the draw card.

Halle Berry is not my first choice for Mirian but a Hollywood person told me she's the draw but I think her acting stinks she's like Jeff Goldblum as an actor he's weak, and has no range. His characters are exactly the same no matter what part he's playing so is Halle her characters are all the same the helpless female.

My suggestion if it is at all possible network, network, and some more networking.

If I may ask what is it that cost so much? Costumes, camera men, union actors, location shoots, director fees?

The movie I appeared in 'Whatever' was filmed in Wheeling, West Virginia there was only one brand name actor. I receive residuals from this movie. Once I received a check for $.68 now didn't it cost them more money to mail this to me than the check was worth. I only get paid if the movie is rented or shown on television apparently it played on one of the premium channels which I won't allow in my house cause I have a son and I don't want him watching some of the garbage that appears on these premium channels.

evie

its all good

Hey ya'll

Thank you so much for visiting my bio.

I have gained the more satifaction than winning a contest.

I was once told:

But English teachers shudder when they read your writing. Novelists cry. Linguists ponder suicide. Anthony Burgess reads your writing and says, "What the fuck?".

But it didn't stop me. The one contest I entered which I will not do again for a very long, long time, I was told that I am the reason producers will not read new screenwriters work and that I'm making it bad for everyone.

I just want to thank all of those who didn't see my bio like that, the bio changes with my moods.

As of today January 21 exactly one year and one month later since I signed up I have 4000 hits.

I know to you big time folks its nothing but to me it means everything. One hundred and one synopsis hits and one hundred and nine excerpt downloads.

I am ecsatic and overjoyed.

Sorry I just had to say I am so happy that I could entertain real writer cause I am a humorist and enjoy making people laugh and think while laughing.

Thanks again to every one who hit the page.

evie

it just got better

Eric

I used to be a master baiter on board a boat.

evie

Quote the Raven Nevermore!

Thomas Junior, just tell me that you love me and ease your troubled heart!!!

Phoebe Snow, Taj Mahal, Hugh Masakela, Grover Washington, Stardust Memories by Willie Nelson, Toto, Beatles Magical Mystery Tour, and Sergeant Peppers Lonely Heart Club Band, the song 'When I get old and losing my hair' The Johnson Brothers, Average White Band, Chicago, Lonnie Liston Smith, The Becker Brother, Roy Ayers, Chris Cross's 'Sailing' Hiroshima, RareEarth, The Doobie Brothers, Rasmey Lewis, Lee Ritenour, Jean-Luc Ponty, Bob Marley, Bill Withers, Chuck Mangione, Dexter Wansel, Bruce Hornsby, Santana, Herb Alpert, George Benson, Rufus (Chaka Khan), Queen's Body Language, Steve Wonder, Four Tops and Laura Nyro.

All in the Wayback Machine, all on vinyl all 33's, luckily I have a turntable.

evie

The best music ever.

Oh, how could I forget 'TOMMY' by the London Philharmonic, my bad.

evie

Hey Thomas R.

As a teacher be really careful what you say to your student.

Sister Eugene (4th grade), in an effort to teach me where to stop when reading (periods and commas) only ended up making me HATE reading as she stood there poking me in the chest with her finger every time I didn't stop, yelling at me in front of the class, I absolutely hated reading after that.

Please be careful what you do cause your students will never forget.

When I graduated from high school, I wanted to be a journalist but you had to take a million hours of english so that stopped me.

Of course I could kick myself now but back then it didn't matter.

White Smoke has creative writing, business, and other software. It doesn't do anything but offer a better word or rephrasing and punctuation, nothing more.

Oh it also has a one for converting english to another language.

What you've done here is make anyone who does use it afraid to own up to it.

evie

I speak ebonese (ebonics).

See Folk,

Like a dog with a bone he just won't stop.

Did I mention any names? No, but since you owned up to it, yes it was you but I still loved you even though you are a 'mean mother shut your mouth' to me.

It was copied and pasted folks. Oh (comma), it was taken out of context (comma), I think not bully (period).

Stop trying to manipulate me little boy, I'm not like your mother, I'm not Demi and you're not Ashton.

Now get lost, some people just won't let you have your little moment of glory, go figure.

For crying out loud just admit that you can't live without me and get on with your writings, dude, sheesh.

Why am I even bothering, you're trying to chase me out of the room.

See ya,

Evie

Why bring a lovers spat to the blog, Thomas Swan Jr.?

Hey James,

No not retired yet.

Couldn't afford the hospital huh? The poor mustang that horse must be tired huh?

evie

Hey Ron,

What if you want your story to go straight to DVD does it cost as much, cause that's what Tyler Perry did, his play's went straight to DVD not to the movies.

or

You make it yourself and sell it from the trunk of your car like the rappers do?

I'm told period peices cost more cause of costumes, well I say I can go to a costume shop and rent them myself and I don't need alot of people just use three and film the same Union soldier from different positions, with a beard and without a beard. He only has to shoot two men in the dark from behind a tree. That sounds cost effecient to me, right?

I really don't want to be famous cause I don't want cameras following me around cause I'm into too much mischief and being where I'm not suppose to be. I just want to make something different.

And Janet, Angela's on ER now, her husband supposedly owns his own production company, he used to be on CSI Criminal Intent but he's not on the show anymore.

I think if I could get to Whitney Houston she'd go for playing the part of Mirian cause she needs a come back roll, wonder if she could stay sober and not be a diva long enough? When I write it's going to be for a sistah there's enough stories for white chicks in fact that's all you see. Even the Wayan Bros played white chicks, go figure.

evie

its all gooder

Hey Janet,

The black actress cannot afford to back a film, their are as hard up as us. Where would these actresses get the money to make a movie?

The only one that could finance a movie is Oprah and you could never get to her.

Our option would have been BET but their so freakin busy showing idiot music video of butt naked black chicks and fully dressed ugly ass rappers.

Why make a movie about Biggie small? Who gives a rats ass about him.

BET has sold us down the river and that is a sad state of affairs. Like I said all the movies for blacks is about a guy getting out of jail and becomes someone. It makes the young black kids think you have to go to jail to be a success. How Sad!!!

Or that movie American Gangster with Densel, what a disgrace for us and an embarrasment. That channel is strickly geared to the infant metality. Of course it's no longer owned by blacks they sold it.

Now there's TV One supposedly for blacks but all that's showing is old reruns of GoodTimes with that ugly buck tooth JJ. Dynomite, and some other old reruns of shows I never watched.

CSI Miami used to have an older black woman no she got the boot and there's a younger black woman.

I'll find a way to make my film cause I know the older blacks like me would enjoy it and some of the whites.

Oh I forgot the DUKE'S OF HAZZARD were Confederates cause the flag was on the car called the GENERAL I couldn't say if there were any blacks on the show I don't remember.

Find a way Janet to network in person with people who are in a position to listen and make things happen. Sometimes Hollywood ain't the way to go, there's too much at stake.

Now Whitney might have some connection but will the studio trust her. She don't have the money to make it herself spent it all on?

Try New York it might be easier. Cali is too overdone.

Evie

it'll get better

Hey Janet,

I either read or heard somewhere look for a producer who made a movie like yours, go to IMDb and look for musicals and find a producer who did a movie just like yours.

I say let's go outside the US, Ontario seems to make alot of the TV series that are on the boob tube.

I'd prefer mine to be on TV cause alot more people would see it than at the movies and not the premium channels cause not everyone has them.

Try Hallmark or Lifetime or Oxygen cause the garbage their showing is a disgrace. Bad Girls like we need to see grown women screaming at each other and bitch slapping each other, oh brother that's not good.

Oh that sizzle tape for A and E is out, I saw the trailer for it the one about the EXTERMINATOR, the show will air next month or something, I really wasn't paying attention.

You're a dancer find a theater or a film college, you could find your actors there, take a camera and do yo thing not the whole script but what you think is the highlights then put it on the web that should get you noticed.

Know your demographics and who you want to appeal too, then send it to those people to show you're serious and know what you're doing.

I know it sounds like a big job but WHERE THERE'S A WILL THERE'S A WAY!!!

I'll always believe that!!

Sometimes God puts you in the right place at the right time you just have to know what to do when he does and be ready to go ALL THE WAY LIVE!!

Plus Janet with Pres Obama in the time for us is now, RIGHT NOW. First Lady Michelle will bring class and grace and represent.

Life is Good and it's all good.

evie

Hey Patrick,

You're just fine, I'm a motivator and that's what I do best, Janet needs some inspiration that's all this is about.

I'm too afraid to ask what the movie was about.

I say make it yourself if it doesn't involve too much special effects.

Here in Texas I could find a place to make the scene where Capt. Eli goes to the Union Fort there's plenty of forts around here.

Janet most of the time theater people will do it for free just to get themselves some exposure, film schools will do it for maybe free or a small fee just to get the experience, think of things to bring down the cost. You might have to pay big bucks to get it edited but that's the nature of the business.

Thanks Ron I knew you'd know where to send us to get the skinny, the dope, the 411 of how to do it yourself.

If your story is good you don't need a big star their overrated anyway, the show carries itself. If I hear of Brad and Jolie and Wil Smith in anymore films I'll scream, there is such a thing as overexposure for an actor.

Evie

it's about to get much much better, LET'S GO ALL THE WAY LIVE IN 2009

Hey guys maybe we can get our own station and show our stuff, sound like a plan, you get to preview your sizzle tape then it's the next persons turn. I'm a idea person so there's my idea.

Hey guys,

be carefull selling your script, it sounds good but whoever you sell it to can do anything they want with it, they can even shelve it and never make it just because they can do that and there's nothing you can say absolutely nothing cause you got paid.

But I guess once you get the doe it might not matter to you. It would to me, but that's just me, that's why I would rather do it myself.

Sometimes when you're watching a movie read the credits, I've found quiet a few producers that way then went on IMDb and found them, it gives their fax numbers, studio address, phone numbers, etc. etc. etc.

I've sent faxes and emails to people like Sidney Poiter, I didn't expect an answer it was just the fact that I could do it, that's all and I did no follow up, I didn't want to keep bugging them.

Just depends on how far you want to go to get what you want.

How did that guy named Shamalang Ding Dong get to where he is? The guy that makes some scary movies.

evie

it's all good

Quote the RAVEN NEVERMORE, mi amour

Hey,

In the movie the Preditor with Arnold Swartzenegger he said they wanted a sex scene with him and the latino woman. He promtly said no.

I could not see putting a sex scene in a movie like that. If your running for your life from a monster you don't have time for that.

evie

Hey ya'll

I guess I should clarify the one contest I entered. It was Netfilm and it was free and the readers were other writer not for real readers.

Only one person talked about the story and said it was a great idea, the rest of the reviews scolded me about my punctuation, that's what I got bitched out for, not the story.

I was not going to enter cause I knew it wasn't ready but was bullied into submitting something that I knew wasn't ready for a contest. Lesson Learned.

I rewrote the story to make it kinder gentler but I still have issues with punctuation.

Contest ready? Naw, not yet. They have pay for proofreaders so I'll just pay them to correct the punctuation.

So it wasn't the story they trashed it was my attempt at writing in my native language, EBONICS.

evie

it be's all better, doe See what i'm saying, say what i'm seeing.

Thomas Jr.

you're a tease.

you teased me while softly stroking the keysboard tapping out your subjects and predicates, carassing me with your dangling participles and your diphthongs.

you stole my heart with your colons and semi colons, the way your i's were dotted and your t's were crossed, your quotation marks and parenthesis captivated me, trapped me.

the way your question marks curve to the right all inticed me pulling me into your dashes and underlines.

then you stopped it all with the dreaded periods.

NOT three exclamation points

evie

here's your sign control, alt, delete bully

Ron you're so sweet and you know your shit, so pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

Just my opinion I think the bunch of us would do better trying to hit the TV movies of the week than some big Hollywood fiasco.

I rent movies every now and then particularly horror or scifi. I've found some good ones and some ridiculous ones. I rented Libertarian with Johnny Depp what a depressing flick but the acting was good.

Ron u da man!

evie

its all good

Porn is a waste of time and money, sex is an ugly thing and we're ugly when we're doing it.

Porn is so fake, when you're into the groove you're sweating, your hair is standing on end, your face is contorted, every nerve endings are spazing out, you're making animal sounds, your skin is slapping together, if you're doing it right, what's pretty about that. There is no way your makeup will be perfect after making monkey love.

Jimmy Montana I've never worked on a boat, I was talking about the other kind of 'master baiter' it was a funny dude, a play on words which is my specialty.

Are you related to Tony Montana, you know the one who constantly says, "Let me introduce you to my little friend." at least he was being honest about it. It's not the size of the ship but the motion of the ocean.

Okay now I've gone to far or not far enough.

evie

it's all delicious, oopps.

Doing it in the dark is not recommended, you need to be sure there are no unexpected attachment or other things unknown factors, always look at the equipment. I think you'd want to see what you're getting into.

Sex in a movie is overrated.

Do you really want to see Kermit and Miss Piggy getting down or any of the other muppets or Sponge Bob and Sandy Cheeks (the squirrel), or Darth Vader and Jabba the Butt, (unclear about the gender)?

The person you're with might be gorgeous but afterwards all the glamour is gone.

If you're doing it right.

evie



some of the movies I've seen I wonder how they got the camera that close to the desired destination or is it computer generated.

Does this mean you have to have a production company already on board?

when they say a film script does that mean you have to have camera directions and angles, scene locations already scouted out and so on?

I went into the application to get more info and I get an email from them saying I didn't complete the application, uh oh.

I've done enough theater, movies (extra) and industrials to see the routine and know a production company but I think I'd have to ask them if they could do it first before submitting anything.

Am I right?

evie

duh

Hey Greg,

If I may be so nosey can I get a ball park estimate of how much it cost to make your film?

Did you do most of the work like scouting for locations?

Here in Texas the Texas Film Commission offers classes on how to scout for locations and other things.

Was the production company happy to go along with your vision?

Did you direct it yourself or did you stand aside and let someone else do it?

Just want to know.

evie

it's all good

Hey Ron,

Why so much talk about Hollywood, what about New York City doesn't alot of stuff come out of New York?

Oh boy Praetorius, Terpsichore Dances just came on the Music Channel Classical, I love this music, hopeless romantic here.

Anyway Ron, does everyone think they're going to get rich, I just want to be able to pay my freakin bills rich is not in the equation, too many problems. Too many hands in your puss asking for handouts.

So you're damned if you do and damned if you don't. Bummer.

Some movies of the week have gone on to be series. I guess you'd still have to move. Bummer. I like Texas.

evie

it's all good

Hey James,

I'm a Gemini so I am a vintage twin of myself.

I do believe I have a dopleganger. I saw a skit on snl or mad tv. The skit was called 'needy evie' it was about a doll that kept having temper tantrums. I thought how did they know, is someone looking through my window, is my apartment bugged, how did they know, how?

so james who's Jimmy Montana? Your dopleganger perhaps?

If I get any more looser this sight would have to be x-rated, so we'll keep my twin in the box for now. My evil twin Skippy.

There's this band that has this lead guitar player and he makes the most unusual faces when he's into his playing, he's really into it. I asked him afterwards did he make those faces during sex, he said he didn't know cause he's not looking at himself.

How's that?

evie

who's Jimmy Montana?

it's all good

Hey James,

the original version of my screenplay I had multiple sex romps. But was told that she got porked to soon in the script cause she didn't really know the guy. I'm thinking over 40 people aren't going to play games their going to get busy especially since she hadn't been laid in 16 years.

the second time it was after she embarrssed the man in front of his friend and after he tosses her into the river. I was told he's somewhat abusive. I figure an alpha woman needs an alpha man to alphacate her.

The last one was a mutual love making.

I recall in the old movies men could be macho, I like macho men not the wife beater kind but the kind that used to be in the pirate movies, the men that would pin a willing woman against the wall willingly and ravish her willingly, but you didn't see anything as it should be, I don't need to see butt cracks to get the jest of what's going to happen.

Now the movies make the man damn near beg for the tail. Or he's some whinny whimpy puss that any woman would kick out of her room cause she's going to have to do all the work, give him a GPS monitor to find the right hole or write on her body in braille.

I used to like 'The Rock' the wrestler dude, what a body then he makes a movie wearing a dress, well that killed it for me, now that dude John Cinna, what a body what a nice booty, nice hillbilly looking dude, but sexy as hell. Please John Sinna please do not put on a dress, please.

evie

it's all good

Naw James

Tony and me couldn't get together, a little racial profiling going on. He liked to powder his women and beat their butts. I'm not into the S&M thing. If it's hurting me it aint sexy.

besides why pick a italian to play a cuban?

Cougar's who thought up that name, what do you call an old man chasing a younger woman, Daddy, possumm, gorilla, wizard of oz?

Some one asked me if that's what i was, a cougar I didn't even know what he was talking about. No interest in teaching a man a damn thing he's suppose to come to the table with the knowledge before hand.

Get the book Sex for idiots, dummies and the dead.

evie

and that wasnt' me at your window last night, I just have to look into the crystal balls and find you cause your listed.

Ron,

After I graduated from high school back in the day, I lived out there for a minute, I loved the scenery it is a very beautiful place.

The people are a different story, they all seemed to be users, they would use you for what ever they could get out of you, even if it was just to ask you for a stick of gum.

New York to me is too crowded, too many people, you can't see the sky cause the buildings are in the way, no grass except for Central Park and that place is too dangerous. People are rude enough in Texas but New York the people are not only rude but peculiar. My sister the writer producer, (plays) is up there and she's crazy as all get out, at least I have an excuse for being nuts.

Why does all the movies have to come out of these two places, they don't always film there, they go to other locations.

The series Prison Break is filmed here in Texas, I've never watched the show, not my cup of tea.

evie

it's all good

Hey James,

No that wasn't me, as a 50 foot woman all I'd have to do is tear the roof of the mother.

Besides the aluminum foil you have on the windows prevents me from finding you, you know the foil you put up to prevent the aliens from reading your mind.

I've taken all the macho man sex out the story totally. I think love that lasts over 142 years is more important.

besides making love in the woods is tricky, I tried it once cause it look so romantic, I ended up with misquito bites in places that you don't really want them, ouch.

It was my husband and I had no fun at all getting poked by sticks, leaves and bugs and that was just his foreplay. The movies never tell you about the hazards.

Needless to say I'm divorced I draw the line when you have to bring small farm animals into the encounter. It didn't make any sense, just cause Kmart had the blue light special on aisle six for small farm animals doesn't mean you have to purchase them, the goat's beard was distracting, and the grasshopper kept talking to himself, he kept saying, "Concentrate grasshopper", and trying to catch the rocks I was throwing at it.

Now see what you did Jimmy, I must put my evil twin, Skippy, back in the box, she tricked me.

evie

its all good

Ron,

As founder and President of the 'Dirty Ole Women's club I have a reputation to maintain.

It's all James's fault, I was minding my own business trying to sound edumakayted then he wrote the name Cybul that triggered the dirty ole woman gene.

Someone needs to write the true story of Peter Pan, the man was a child abductor, a stalker, and a drug addict with major issues.

He flies around in green tights that he never washes, goes into a little girl's bedroom flies away with her and her brothers, (that's excessories after the fact isn't it), takes them to a deserted island with no bathrooms or TV, who knows what he was doing with the lost boys after he told them to get lost he has a real woman now, Capt Hook, the only adult figure looses his hand in a poker game after betting his croc skin shoes, Tinker Bell gets jealous sprinkles white powder on Pan's peter calling it fairy dust, could that be why the accused could fly. Poor Tiger Lily is kicked to the curb cause of Pan de Peter's new woman. As ya'll have said over and over Sex Sells.

Sorry Ron what does that mean free associates?

Okay at least I know I have issues.

evie

its all good.

Greg,

I'm afraid to tell you that each version was around long before Mr. Seinfeld long long before.

There was a cop show many moons ago when a drunk naked guy comes into the police station, opens his coat and yells, "I'm bucket naked".

evie

it's all good

Hey Ya'll,

I got my tax return back and I bought myself a LAPTOP a Mac to be exact.

Now I don't have to fight with my son when he's on the Xbox live. On top of that I had to go buy all the crap to go wireless, mucho expensive.

I found the Final Draft 7 but they wanted $249, I think I'll go on line to ebay and get it for $135 or a little more.

I'm gonna have to get use to this laptop thing. I've come into the new techno now.

evie

it's all good

Hey Thomas,

Is amazon cheaper?

What's the difference between them, besides price, Final Draft that includes A/V they have some kind of suite thing going on, you can get it together or seperate.

Looking at the box doesn't really tell you. I'm assuming and you know what they say about assuming, this A/V thing is for the production company, you know giving camera angles, lighting and such, I don't think I'm ready for that, so I don't think I'll get that one even though it's the same price.

evie

it's all good

Morning everyone

Evie has come into the future.

I got Final Draft 7, loaded it onto my laptop, it only took major top secret time to do it.

The final draft people sure want to make sure you can't steal their product. You have to go online put in the top secret code then they release the application to your computer. Of course I didn't know that so after I installed it I couldn't find the folder so I kept hitting the install button, no file.

I finally figured it out and viola I have final draft loaded and I have started creating the screenplay in the correct format.

I'm a happy camper at last.

evie

it's all fabulous of course I'm penniless now but I look like I know what I'm doing.

Does cruises new hitler movie have cruise or hitler doing the do or hitler and eva b doin the do? I'm sure the new costumes are shinier and the explosions are bigger and better than the old version of this same story.

Was Hitler's book mein kamph secretly written about Eva his woman, mein c_nt?

evie

So why are you here!

evie

So why are you here!

evie

Eric

Was it not you who wrote about paying for a good time aboard the boat in Hawaii being the master poler.

If that ain't Ronald McDonald calling John Wayne Gacy black.

This clown has to go to work now see ya

evie

Dearest Eric and the other,

You have caused a riff in the cosmic humor layer, you've trampled on humors right to life any life.

Due to these fact I have no other choice but to unleash the dreaded hordes, all two of them, that lie beneath the earths oceans ancient warriors at my disposal ready and willing to do my bidding.

Arise my minion seek out the all knowing ones, arise.

Ninja Klowns transform, Ninja Klowns attack!

evie

just when you thought it was safe to think.

me thinketh he doth protest too much!

evie

No, Eric, but your wife said it was okay.

evie

pick away gentlemen, I ain't sceard.

I seems to be good therapy for you two seeing as you're the only ones that keep ragging.

See, folks for a minute Mr. Jr. came to my rescue then turned around and trashed me, that's how our writing relationship would go say something nice then step on it the very next strokes. Men, go figure.

Two big macho tough guys: MACHO MACHO MAN or Y-M-C-A or TIP TOE THROUGH THE TWO LIPS.

Poor little ole me, what ever shall I do, I'm being maligned, dejected, scandalized, made to be the meany. They ain't heavy their my mofo dudes

evie

it's all good

Hey Irin

The standard giveaway that a woman is pregnant is the morning sickness, if you play it right it can be a simple thing , like she stands too quickly upchuck, she wakes heads for the woods or the can.

evie

it's all good

Is it possible for each of us to contribute and create a story displaying your unique style.

1) The story begins. 2) visit the thread set up your portion of the story. 3) the next blogger continues the scene adds a twist. 4) create characters, or move an already established personae along. 5) genre interactive, take blogger to your house. 6) no special rules keep it ligit, don't write what you don't want others to see. 7) No whining, no accusing, no being childish just take a break, give others a chance.

Is this possible, doable, interesting?

A world wide web collaborated creation on moviebytes blog for writers saying 'Look at me, look what I can do, look at me.'

evie

it's all good

Imagination never runs out!

FADE IN

EXT OLD SCHOOL HOUSE -- NIGHT

An ancient building passes for a school the only reason its still standing is for historical purposes.

DR. CROMELY, 60+ wears a brown tweed suit coat complete with leather elbow patches, black slacks possibly in style during another time carries a heavy brown paper shopping bag with handles enters the building.

The large auditorium seats more than enough people to make the evening most enjoyable.

DR CROMELY

Tonight we're going to try a little experiment. I'm going reach in my bag pull out an item and I want to pass it around.

The audience murmurs, bodies start shifting.

DR CROMELY

Now don't panic, it's simple let's see if you can write on your feet, so to speak think fast but...

He rummages around in the bag keeps his eye on his students.

DR. CROMELY

...keeping in mind it should make sense, ah ha..

He grabs an item pulls his hand out he holds up an orange.

DR CROMELY

...here pass it around hold it for five minutes then five minutes more to create your vision, your scene then pass the orange on to the person beside you.

He tosses the orange out into the audience, the students hands go up to catch it, it's caught.

Dr Cromely

Begin.



Dr. Cromely reaches the podium.

Who ever has to poof leave the room there will be no poofing here.

Lighten up folks we only write what we can back up.

The blog started does sex sell? We have unanimously decided that yes it does.

So what else is there to say but to toss in some sick perverse sexual humor.

What is your definition of writing I'm curious?

What do you like to write about.

evie

its all there!

Thomas Swan Jr and Eric Sentell I wish to apologize for being a excorsist head spinning, fountain puking, hell bitch.

My aggressiveness towards men gets the best of me.

Please accept my humble apology.

To the rest of the MB bloggers I apologize to you also.

Please excuse my arrogance.

Only a BITCH when provoked, don't poke the bear with a stick.

evie

its all good Lesson Learned

Not at anytime did anyone mention that this movie is a musical, not ever.

evie

I saw an interview with the lead guy and the scene they showed was him dancing with this woman and a bunch of people dancing behind him like Michael Jackson's thriller.



evie

Hey Tim,

You know I was just thinkin perhaps focusing on what these gentlemen concentrate on while trying to achieve the ultimate win/when situation.

I'm assuming you're going to have said gentlemen in front of millions of people and televised so the more the mind must focus on something calming that is unless, wait a minute ...

...how are you going to judge a fake massy bait climax and a real one? Huh?

evie

dare I wonder?

Hey Ron,

What do you mean as far as you go?

Man, you can go all the way, you should be proud, if you don't toot your own horn I'll do it for you, f'ing A!!!

Proud to know you.

evie

it's all good!

KUDOS JEAN!

evie

its all good

Help Ya'll,

I can't find the dang gone letter with the script number on it and I called myself putting it up safely and I don't remember where I put it.

I've searched all the hiding places and the pack rat mentality has done me in.

Would WGA give me the number for the script or am I screwed?

I need the number to send to a script service and for my protection.

Evie

I messed up again sorry.

P.S. Jean Hunter should I mention your name to them so you get a free some'in some'in?

Thanks ya'll

Jean, yes it's Barb. This will be my first review by a professional and I'm scared as hell cause the punctuation will get me.

However I'm still going to do it, I need to know about the story itself.

That registration letter was proudly displayed on my dresser for months and months then company came a knocking and I cleaned off the dresser and put the thing inside of a larger envelope and that's all I remember that was Dec. 2007.

I'll call WGA and throw myself on the mercy of the court.

Evie

It's called Ole Timers disease.

It's all good

I don't think I'm ready for that, it sounds like some heavy duty stuff.

I would think you'd have to know when not to jump the gun.

evie

How about MARRIED WITH CHILDREN meets SOUND OF MUSIC. I think that would be hilarious.

or

STAR WARS meets MOULIN ROUGE

or

JAWS meets NIP/TUCK

usually coming up with the opening is the hard part the rest just falls into place

evie

I know I'm asking for it but let me make you's guys at least chuckle.

http://www.youtube.com/eviemazzone

A Yankee girl heads west to Texas and finds the magic of her creativity. It helps to have issues!

evie

it got fantastic.

Hey Jean,

I finally got the registration number from WGAW and last night I sent it to Miss Barb now it's a wait, wait, wait, the torture, the agony, the fear, which of course turns into stress, high blood pressure did the email go through cause the money sure went through, will I get a email telling me it was received?

Its all good

Just being a artistic Divalicious.

evie

talk about your DIVAS?

What do you call a male Diva? Divo?

it takes one to know, spot, recognize one and think you're so cute when you're being forceful.

you're so divaliciously dynamic. xoxo

evie

Well I got my review back. Hmmmm.

If it was a pass why would I want to talk to an agent and what the heck question am I going to ask? How's the weather out there?

Are there black reviewers or any black screenplay contest besides mr cosby's which is unrealistic, like you could just up and leave texas for new york for a couple of months.

What does it matter what shade of black Jewel is and if her mother is black what does that make her?

Hmmmm

evie

it's all good

Eric I never said that miss lady was a racist, you did that.

All I asked if there were any black readers does that make me racist I think not dude.

mr cosby wants you to attend a class if you have kids how do you do that just leave them an go to new york alone?

Any way I don't plan on a hollywood prod to do anything for me I'll do it myself.

I network here in texas and have met a lot of people in the biz. I just don't know what I would say to this agent.

You know you need to take a chill pill. What blacks find funny or interesting whites do not it's just a fact of movie going. It was blacks that put Bruce Lee over the top dude and Jackie chan and Jet Li, you know I met Jet at a club. anyway enuff said. Romeo must die with Aliha was for me dude although at the end he should have kissed her and he didn't.

As far as the review it was instructional, it would help if I knew what she was talking about. Its no reflection on her its me. I don't know terms she used seeing as I have never taken a class in screenwriting like the rest of you. On the hole she thought it was interesting. She did ask the question of Jewel's shade of black.

This is not a big studio script and I'm not trying to go hollywood remember they play to the 13-25 male mentality. I'm going for the black females who do you think got Medea/tyler perry off an running?

So cool your jets eric and stop trying to play twinkie dude.

evie

oh the meaness of it all

its all good

folks

I volunteered for the TEXAS BLACK FILM FESTIVAL. I didn't see any of the films cause I had to work the computer, take folks here and there make sure all went well.

The people who's films were shown were not done by big hollywood studios, I didn't ask the black screenwriters if they won any contests before making their films. What I wanted to know is where did they get the funding for the movie, that's all I wanted to know.

Texas motion picture alliance went to austin for a lobby at the capitol, yes evie was there networking networking networking. Gov Rick Perry is one hot dude if he could act he'd be a perfect Thaddeus Calhoun, macho man for sure.

At the beer garden that night I was fussing at a lady for leaving her purse on the table and expecting me to watch it. She left it and went into another building mind you it's not at my table its at another table.

We talk and laugh about it then she hands me her business card and I give her mine.

She is...

Office of the Governor Rick Perry Texas Film Commission

Deputy Director Program Manager, Film Friendly Texas

Of course I emailed her, of course I sent her the first five pages, of course I gave her winning script web sight. I said maybe she knows somebody that knows somebody that knows somebody.

She said it was an interesting script and gave me some suggestions on treatments, so evie is not waiting for some big time hollywood folks to find me or winning some contest.

Where there's a will there's a way.

I never insulted Miss Barb. So get a grip. To let you know what I'm reading here it is..

'Is Jewel black? Her mother is black, but I'm must admit that I'm not sure if she is???? Her description just states she's a freedom (what she wrote) woman? Since Capt Eli is white, this requires clarification. If she is black, it'll create more tension for scenes like this. '

and

'However, I'm still confused regarding her (jewel) physical appearance, especially since she has a white father and a black mother. What is her appearance? Is she black, white, or in between. This is very imperative in this story and it's a visual that was left out of the introductory description!'

back to me, In one of the screenwriting books it says don't describe the person in too much detail. All I wrote was that she's a freedwoman in her 20's. I guess I should have put if she's high yellow, mocha latte brown, beige, or blue black. I just didn't think I had to I thought saying she was a freedwoman said it all, oh well back to the drawing board. THIS IS NOT 'IMITATION OF LIFE' the movie in other words jewel is not trying to pass for white that would kill the story for black women and that's my only concern.

I'm not pissed I actually think it's funny. If her mother is black what color is she? Huh?

Unfinished Love Remix is for black women thank you very much. So what contest do you think I should vie for, chances are I'm not even in the ballpark. Do you think the movies that are at the theaters now were in any contest??? slimdogpennypincher, iloveyoumannowpassthepipe, That thing with brad pitt as some hillbilly in germany killing notzees?

just asking so don't get all uptight, mighty ones. do what's best for you always.

Evie

Its still all good cause evie believes so.

Oh one other thing barb is right on the money. I don't know who to make the hero, Dr. Mirian or Capt Eli so I left my options open. See it's like this Dr. Mirian is a female hero but the story revolves more around him. If I make Capt Eli the hero hollywood rewrites the script and kicks the black women out the story completely. So I leave them wondering, I'm so logical.

Oh and she said make it a supernatural/thriller, well isn't that genre all sown up like a jilliion people in that space so it would be impossible to compete. I picked Historical cause I figured there can't be too many hysterical opps historical scripts.

folks

I had no idea this was going to be such a problem.

My problem is, folks, that I had another writer read the story and he told me things and said I should cut out scenes so I did. The scene where she explains how she was cursed I cut out cause another writer said so. So I cut the scenes out.

Tell me how do I know what I'm suppose to cut out if each person is telling me to cut cut cut. One person says you don't need this and I cut it and then another tells me to cut out this scene then I cut that out. In the end I've cut out everything I'm so lost I don't know what to keep and what to save? Everyone is telling me something different.

Cut Cut Cut rewrite rewrite rewrite. This person doesn't like this, this doesn't make sense, make them this make them that.

How am I suppose to know who's right and who's full of it.

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, what's a writer to do?????????

What do I keep and what do I cut out. So many options so many directions who am I suppose to listen too.

Lost in the writers jungle of words.

Evie

it's all good, so I'll do my own thing and rewrite the damn thing so everybodies satisfied and that is an impossible feat.

Man oh man, oh man this one doesn't like this, this one wants this.

I still don't know what I'm suppose to ask this agent so I won't ask anything.

Does teleconference mean that we are all on the phone together like three way calling? I'm not saying a word, I'll just listen.

I do not have anything bad to say about the review she said what she had to say and that's the end of it. So stop beating my ass about it. Live and learn.

EVIE ASS IS NOT BITTER OR ANGRY SO PLEASE GET A GRIP.

WHAT IS DONE CANNOT BE UNDONE!!!!!!

YOU HAVE EVIE ALL WRONG!!!!

I AM NOT UPSET I JUST DON'T KNOW WHO TO BELIEVE!!!

OPINIONS ARE LIKE ARM PITS EVERYBODY HAS ONE!!!!

Thanks everyone, maybe I should go to the man himself Mr. Trottier of the Screenwriters Bible only wants $365 to review a script or something close to that. Just kidding. I'd have to sell my left kidney for that review.

Okay all kidding aside I get it now, send script to a bunch of reviewers and see what drops and where.

Thanks again.

Now the question is do I leave it on the site if it's going to be changed after every reviewer gets through beating it with a broom?

evie

The script was suppose to show the racial difference between 1865 and the present, but after getting all this flak obviously nothing has changed at all.

I feel if this script was about a black man and a white woman it would be accepted but because its a black woman and a white man its taboo.

1865 Pace vs Alabama black man marries white woman prison time for them.

1965 Loving vs Virginia white man marries black woman still against the law. I think his name is very very appropriate.

2008 race relations?? You figure it out. Cause from what I'm reading supposedly not much has changed. Just like the north, racism is there just not in your face.

evie

The script I originally wrote was written with a lot of anger, a lot of anger from this black woman seeing my sistah's portayed as screaming, ho bag, drugged out, sex freak banshies. I'm sick of it. That's all evie was trying to do.

I do not watch mr perry's House of Pain. Another show depicting two fat black people as step n fetched or Amos and Andy mentality. Why must all black shows be comedies. why must we alway be clowns?

is it me or memorex? yeah Im touchy as an actress I was told I'm not URBAN enough. Just cause I wasn't ghetto fied enough or dark enough or didn't look black enough. so yeah I'm pissed.

Robert Townsend hit it right on the head, Spike Lee, who I hate, had to make his own film.

okay enough bitching for now. Okay I've vented so now I feel better. nah, nah!

Thanks John,

Now I feel better cause someone understands, thanks that means so much to me.

too many cooks spoil the pot.

Now I have to rethink the changes as soon as I figure out what I'm suppose to change to make my point clearer.

The story takes place in a small mountain town that needs to be rebuilt after the civil war.

Then comes to the present to the same small town to see how its changed.

oh well I'll get it right eventually cause the problem in the present is not a racial one at all, its just about a man and a woman.

Mirian is not Jewel reincarnated cause that would mean Mirian has to die so Jewel and the capt can be together Mirian brought the spirit of her ancestor Jewel back not jewel herself. I guess I didn't make that clear enough.

It shows the parellel danger these women face not a racial issue.

For some reason I can't think of a movie to compare it too. Past and Present america. I only picked a Confederate cause its a least likely match but IT COULD HAVE HAPPENED, dag nabbit.

My problem is patients its something I've never learned and God keeps beating me over the head to teach me patients maybe someday I'll learn how to do that.

They say write what you know. I was married to an Italian for 19 years we dated five years before he got the courage to marry me. No I was not pregnant I made it a point not to let that happen so everyone could say he only married her cause she was pregnant. I made it my business to wait two years before I had my hybrid daughter and another 12 years to have my hybrid son which hubby didn't want me to have any children cause they might be too black. His words.

It's my fault really for having a thing for white boys. all my fault I always want what I'm not suppose to have, all my fault, so sue me.

How ever long it takes is how long it takes but I will tell this damn story for the sistahs we deserve it.

Michelle Obama you are my HERO GOD BLESS YOU. Believe it or not the majority of older black women (which I am one, May 23rd is my feast day I will be 56 years old and damn proud of it, I came up in a different era, racially) are like her (not necessarily harvard lawyer but classy and refined) not these hoochie mommas that we keep seeing. Although I like Lil Kim she's cute.

That teleconference thing is in a few hours I hope agent doesn't ask me anything. I'm just there to listen period. If I knew what I was doing that would be one thing but I obviously don't know what I'm doing, trial and error. I'll get it right eventually.

evie

it's still all good

Jewel is a freedwoman. I didn't think I had to clarify this in detail because...

THERE IS NO OTHER WOMAN IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA THAT HAD TO BE SET FREE JUST THE BLACK WOMAN. Not the chinese, the mexicans the native americans, Just my female ancestors.

A black reader would have known that. If her mother is black. If her mother is black her ass is black, period.

It's all the native americans fault that we ended up here. Their asses wouldn't go out in the field and pick the freakin cotton cause of the heat. So off to Africa, its hot there, those people can stand the intense heat all day, for the free labor.

The Freedmen's Bureau was the first government food stamps to the black people. It was financed for about two years, lots and lots of corruptions so you could imagine just how much was getting through.

No other race in america had to be set free, just the black people. So Freedwoman means she's black.

Just clarifying the situation.

evie

its all good, tell me if I'm missing something.

Who did that to them.

They got a nation within a nation out of the deal. Where's the forty acres and a mule.

Civil rights movement helped all the other minorities get over but I don't remember any of them marching, beaten, sprayed with hoses, hung from trees, beaten by police.

Their a nation within a nation, whether the land was good or not.

Yes, I got the message of the review and yes I have a major overhaul to make, and yes I understand what was left out and what I need to do to make it clearer. So before I could ever send this to another reviewer I would have to make the attempt to do as I was asked.

Semionle indians were a black tribe but were not part of the indian nation if I'm not mistaken.

Who did that to them and the rest of the minorities.

You even have whites who carry cards saying they are part indian, cause I've seen it. What's that about?

evie

Come on big daddy give it to me!!!

This is the first time one of you so called writers have shown any freakin emotions at all, go eric, go.

I've been on this site since 12/07 but only to this room for a few months.

I've noticed a lot of technical jargon, pitches for your favorite writing site or person. How you faired here and there, a lot of kissing ass.

But not once anything about your motivation, what the hell is driving you, you, you, to tell a freakin dynamic story you feel everyone needs to know.

Never anything about you's I guess nothing personal. How am I suppose to get a graps of your personality, you, eric, you, not this facade everyone's got going. Be real, what's working eric's nerves besides evie. I bet your mrs has some stories to tell, so tell it. I can only tell you how I see it. Where the hell were you in Africa and what the hell were you doing, I would never go there and I'm African supposedly.

As far as you having black friends that's so cliche.

Come on, let me hear it. If you're a writer then you have a unique perspective from your point of view.

Tell me how you could have possibly gotten yourself into that situation in the first place. What the hell were you doing in Africa?

I've told you all about me and where I'm coming from the only way I know how the way I lived it and what happened to me, how I felt, what decisions I made.

All I hear from all of you writers is tech. tech. tech, nothing about you. Where's the mystery, what would give me a better perspective why you wrote what you wrote, there's usually a reason you did it. A thought.

Come on bring it big daddy!

evie

so one down how many too go, tell me you's guys. Eric just cussed me out, bout time someone showed some hutzbah!!!!!!!!!

this is an international site yet I only see the same people over and over. Ain't there anyone else out there, hello, hello maybe they just want to see the crazy americans spar verbally.

I don't really believe what eric said just so happens he has a half native american wife. And wouldn't he be blind and I don't think africans have chili peppers, I think he was at some mexican bar and got sloshed and forgot where he was ya know we all look alike.

What nationality are you eric I'd really like to know.

Eric I give you kudos for speaking up I like to spar verbally, only you seem to have the temper that's required that's a good thing. Temper on baby.

this is fun, I guess the others are waiting to see what happens to eric, chickens.

This kind of tension is what makes good writing.

Come on big daddy don't stop now, no thumb sucking allowed speak your mind and your peace dude. That's what it's all about.

I dont believe any of that happened to you dude, was this during the aparthied thing? If so you shouldn't have been where you was. Thats like me picnicing at a klan rally.

come get me big daddy, I love you, I bet you was a brat as a kid, where did you grow up.

evie

it just got more juicy and spicy, come on admit it. Oh the excitement of it all.

Hey eric what's a 'HOWLEE' I don't think I spelled it right so I sounded it out. Tell the board what that means and who uses it. See I've been to Hawaii too.

what flow is that?

Jean

I think miss barb is getting a hell of a free advertising thing the thread has her name on it. it keeps her name out front and this is not a bad thing just a conversation between the kids in the school yard

I am getting advise from you guys in a round about way. I'm seeing personality not just words.

Say one of you's guys scripts sell and you become big time. I can say hey I knew that person when they were on the site. I can tell all the nasty things they said. Make some blackmail money, you know the drill.

but you guys don't say anything just make sure you use all caps when intro'ing a character.

I happen to want to know more. If this thread is so awful why so many hits? It can't be all me. Somethings driving this conversation. Hate naw knowledge yeah.

Good job Jean but eric can take care of himself he's a big boy. He has one hell of a voice on the phone, so deep, nothing like I would have expected, nothing. Deep and sexy.

Okay continue, vent, vent, vent, this is the real deal.

evie

two down, Miss Jean just told me off in a lady like way mild but stern, all teachery like.

Howdy Michael,

Let me ask you something, when you were creating your female personage, what did you use as your source of information. Maybe some traits from all the females you have encountered cause men and women don't think nothing alike.

What was your point of reference into the female mind?

We're just conversating and everyone is getting all a twitter cause Evie ain't agreeing with them. But its all good.

Not a soul has to agree with me it doesn't matter I'm not trying to get them to agree just to understand. What fun would it be if we agreed all the time, None!!!!

Glad to see someone new and to the other gentleman that told me about the contest for hispanics and blacks and any other minority Thanks a bunch I will look into the contest for sure. I did not mean to blow past you, I kinda got my hands full.

Inquiring minds want to know, just think of all the people that are not making comments either from fear of pissing off the powers that be or just passing through.

people say what you will, they can't do anything to you (the powers that be), they can't hit you or crush you, their only people just like you and me.

evie

it's still all good

Oh and yeah you paid to be here.

Michael,

'hmmmm, perhaps a source of entertainment', isn't that the name of the business entertainment? Train wrecks requires special effects that cost more money. I'm just wondering.

evie

here's a tech question.

in my review miss barb speaks of scene reversal.

Now let me see if I have this right.

take this thread for instance with what's going on and who's pissed at who, would a scene reversal be the following;

Eric flies to texas and punches evie upside the head, well that's expected so I'm guessing he would have to reverse his anger somehow, maybe he buys me roses instead, is that what scene reversal is suppose to be?

or

is it something more dramatic

or am I even in the ballpark

janet I apologize for getting you in trouble, everyone janet has nothing to do with what evie started, evie stands on her own so leave the woman alone, whatever was going on between her and eric started long before I showed up. So just rag me not her I don't seem to need any help making you guys angry and can do it all by myself.

so any newbies want to answer this question?

evie

it's all good

Tell me if i'm wrong but aren't these folks ragging on the review of the reviewer and aint it getting personal.

Ahhhh how short the memories.

evie

whats the difference folks same seems like the same type of ragging to me, cause ragging is ragging no matter how it's said.

Don't worry Miss Barb has emailed me personally so get a grip, folks she didn't seem angry to me, or pissed off.

evie

its all good still all good. at least some new blood came to the room for a minute. Thanks to the gods for writers

opps there thread so your an idiot i brought it to the top, forgot to mention that.

so it's not just me dudes and dudettes

this thread got the man himself to speak. Somebody got some pull.

evie

but ragging none the less from a couple of writers.

its all good

for you newbies this is what got eric started he was fun once then got all hairy. go figure. You the man dude.

evie

AMEN!!!

well then make a porn musical, that should make hollywood take notice.

your A list talent 'PARIS HILTON and 50 CENT'

evie

Tit'tily Winks the musical

music the Who 'TOMMY' gypsy acid queen

Contest of Contest

Honorable mention or whatever they call it, its on your moviebytes email update.

FINAL STATUS Timothy Jay Smith

thats who he is gentlemen he did the same thing to me dude and I didn't listen either. You just do your own thing.

evie

its all good

Hey Folks,

How many of you got an email from them asking you to pitch an article that would be printed in their magazine.

I don't know why, from reading the application I'm not qualified for that.

They want all these credentials, resume, what you've done, etc. etc etc.

I'm figuring I'll send something anyway just cause I can, no other reason.

What happened did their writers walk away or something?

evie

it's all good

opps, a guy named Bill Donavan

evie

opps again Bill Donovan, there's nothing worse than spelling someone's name wrong, sorry bigshot Dude Donovan, my bad.

evie

its' all gooder

Andrew and Mark welcome aboard. It's about time we went all the way international, and all the way live.

G'day

evie

first time I've seen your name buckaroo, and ain't nothing wrong with looking stupid just as long as you ain't stupid.

wasn't it Einstien that they thought was mentally challenged?

evie

its all good downunder

Connie,

Huh? Holy Mackerel! Do you feel better?

evie

your creativity is better spent elsewhere, young lady you gave her your time, energy and spirit for what? She don't care and I don't even know her but I bet she don't, I'm just saying.

It's all good I'm supposing?

How convenient that this swine flu originated out of Mexico just when the Texas border is at risk and some company wants to build a wall from Texas across New Mexico, sorta like the great wall of China, that's big, very big money for someone.

A spy thriller, espionage, James bond kinda thing.

Someone in mexico started this so called epidemic, somehow it shows up in Texas.

It's making the mexicans look bad and everyone wants them out anyway so why not start a disease to make people even more against them.

Scare everyone in the country and around the world, that border is gonna close sooner than we think, more violence than we expect.

Fear makes them more eager to build that wall and pay any price for it. Big money, very big money.

How convenient, it's always about the money.

This is not my genre so I would never attempt something so complicated.

Have at it put your own spin to it. I'm an idea person.

evie

its all good

It's bizarre how only certain cities are being hit by this virus, one person here, one person there.

Here in plano one school is closed because one student got the flu.

Dallas has closed some schools because of parents concerns.

Fort Worth cancelled the Mayfest this weekend, do you have any idea how much money the city lost.

My son's track meet has been cancelled.

My question is if this was an epidemic wouldn't it have spread to more people than one or two here and there.

A Plague spreads faster than this. It just seems that this virus is being very selective.

What a bunch of pussies and sissies we are in America. If you are going to die it doesn't matter where the hell you are, you are gonna die. If God has need of your soul, you're outta here.

Remember that rich guy, the one de caprio played Howard Hughes, remember how he died. HORRIBLY, money or no money, he died like that because of his money, somebody got his mucho, mucho, money.

The spread of this swine flu ain't natural, someone's manipulating this virus.

I'm just suspicious, the Mexicans here in texas are taking a major hit of racism, then the president will have to get in the mix cause I don't think the governor is going to be able to control this, even though he ordered a large supply of the vaccine.

Oh there you go the pharmacutical companies that have rights to this vaccine are gonna make some big money seeing as this scare has gone global.

Someone will design a designer mask with jewels and bling bling.

Jokes will be created just for the moment.

Maybe even a jumpsuit that covers you head to toe, oxygen bars will see a jump in business.

Everybodies gonna make money, big, very big money.

evie

I'm just wondering

it's all scarily good, what?

Okay take the same premise and make it two different planets, one's diseased, one's not, one has the cure one doesn't, someone poisoned, the water supply, someone created the virus for revenge, etc, etc, etc.

You get the idea right?

this is like the fact the saudia arabians withdrew their gold from the world trade center two and a half hours before the planes hit it. hhmmmmm.

so no yelling fire on a crowed planet!

evie

supposedly one hundred and fifty Mexicans have died from this virus.

it was probably the farmer's family where the swine flu started just him and his family. That's sorta not the same as an epidemic.

A south dakota cowboy told me the pigs carry the virus but it's not active till something activates it, or stresses the pig out.

My son's theory, some guy porked the pig and that's what started it. Naw that ain't right.

evie

its all good

Carollton closed all their schools, so has Forth Worth, 43 infections in texas total. That's hardly an epidemic.

ahha, its the drug cartells, what better way to stop the US from getting into their drug mix.

are they that clever, ya think? yeah

I've never understood why we don't take the place over. They have oil, so why go half way around the world when we can just go down the road for the oil.

I got it figured out. Send the Mexicans back to fight for their own country. Hey they know the terrain better than us, they know the cartels hideouts and who they are. So arm them send them home to reclaim their land.

We've armed the Taliban, Saddam Hussein, the somolians, why not the Mexicans.

And we get the oil free, put disney in Can Cun, we got a railroad passage to south america, what more could we want.

evie

what a world, what a world.

It's like Puerto Rico, we own it but not really, we have half the Mexican nation in our state alone so why not go for the whole enchilada.

Besides everything and I mean everything is big in TEXAS.

evie

Besides America's been invading things for years so what else is new, it's how we survive, what does portland do up there, what's your claim to fame in portland besides mary tyler moore pitching her hat in the air? Dude

Oh I remember hearing something about that or was it the deal with China that somehow their goods would be delivered to Dallas, well maybe that didn't go through cause I haven't heard anything else about it, they elected a new mayor so maybe it got lost.

Poor Texas don't hate the state cause of the Bushes and the republicans

I'm a yankee but I like the state, no pussies here, just a hell of a lot of guns, lots and lots of guns. I hate guns.

evie

besides the take over of texas is ancient history. I say send them back to take over their country from the drug cartel, although that might end a plenty of high lifes where would the rest of the country get its illegal drugs from?

Ron? who's paying for that road cause that sounds like bigger than big money. Is it us tax payers footing the bill and is Cannada paying for any of this. Is mexico paying for any of this?

Just wondering

evie

If this isn't the best global james bond or detective story then what is?

I'd say this beats out that stupid DaVinci code crap anytime cause this is real and affects us all someway or another.

Just throw in some sex and you got it made.

evie

now that's a story scary but a story non the less

How did 73 people in New York get the swine flu? I don't think the border extends that far. They beat out Texas we only had 43 cases.

The schools are reopening that should have never closed in the first place.

evie

it was probably Ricky and that damn Lucy

if it must be a musical then

SWINE FLOOZIES AIRBORNE, the musical

logline pigs take to the sky to protect their hamhocks from the militant farmers who are hell bent on uncurling their tails.

Huh? What?

evie

Hey Ron,

Who are these people that make these major decisions. Are they the people like in X files that made all the alien decisions?

Or like Scrooge's dearly departed.

Just think, to be able to have that kind of power to decide to build a road cutting the US in half, get the Spanish company to plan and build it, (will any of the laborers be Americans?) and to collect the money to ride on said super highway. Hmmmmm.

If you mighty folks are listening I'd pay to build a bullet train from one side of the country to the other. If I'm not mistaking didn't we vote on that Amtrak thing, the government runs the Amtrak system, it only takes three days to go from Texas to Cali. that's a whole lot of drinking.

If they decide on the bullet train they'd have to buy up alot of land or pull the imminent domain thing. But you can't have cows crossing the tracks of a bullet train not only would the cow disenigrate but the train would too.

Tax exempt bonds. that seems to be used alot.

Back to these super old (from the 19 and 20 century) dudes. Is it the same guys from that time period? Did they discover the fountain of youth or gone ahead with cloning?

so many questions, so many answers.

Not really but it sounded like a good line.

evie

P.S. Thomas what other kind of brain rot is there, Dude? Besides Portland is on this side of the country so you'd expect them up yonder. Puerto Rican own New York. How many do you know personally Thomas?

I tried to upload new excerpt from Unfinished love and it would not take the fdr claims only adobe can upload.

for crying out loud.

now what?

evie

is it me or?

actually evie is suffering from ole timers disease.

I have to scan the damn thing into adobe and I've done that every time, it just takes so much time to scan ten pages then go find it.

so my bad I took my medicine and I'm fine now my memory has returned.

my brain hasn't returned but my memory has.

evie

its all good. Sorry for bitching I'm just so good at it, ain't I. Don't answer that!

Janet,

Make the story rich and famous falls from grace to poor and scorned.

People always like to see the rich fall, ie, Brittney Spears, she deserved it for taking the sistah's man while said sistah was pregnant.

Anna Nicole, Hollywood killed her so it would be hard to have her go from rags to riches to rags to riches. Skinny to fat to skinny to dead, although it actually happened.

Tammy Faye Baker now there's a scary musical, eyebrows and all. Oh don't forget Mr. Jimmy Swaggart.

RICHES TO RAGS famous dancer breaks leg can a bone transplant bring said dancer back?

or

something like that

How you make musicals out of these horrors I don't know but it would be interesting.

evie

full of ideas or whatever you want to call it.

it's all good

question?

When you's guys revise your script do you make a new file or do you write over original. If you write over it you don't have an original anymore cause you changed it. Are you suppose to keep an original original or it doesn't matter?

In other words do you's keep making new script files every time you change the thing or just keep writing over the original?

I hope you know what I'm asking cause I don't think I kept an original I just kept going back to the original file and changed it repeatedly.

which is it folks?

evie

it's all good

Hey Folks,

Thanks for the advice and the help, much appreciated.

evie

it's all good

Is there any way to stop the TV people from putting those damn pop ups on the screen while you're trying to watch a movie, there so distracting.

I'm watching a movie, the actor looks to the bottom right of the TV, somethings going on that I need to know then up pops this ad for the next show and covered up what the actor was looking at. Damn It.

Who do I write to, who do I yell at?

STOP THE DAMN POPUPS ON THE TELEVISION DAMN IT!!!!!!!

Okay I'm good now, just had to say that.

evie

TV popups ain't all good

The worst is USA and TNT. They actually have popups with people walking across the bottome of the damn screen.

If I wanted to know what came on next I'd push the guide button, folks.

Stop the dreaded TV popups, if we can do it to a computer than there must be a way to do it on the TV.

evie

Okay someone must want to make big big money, invent the chip that will stop that crap from happening. Neccessity is the mother of all invention.

If we can hack government computers there is a way to hack that crap off the damn tv.

I'm watching Lord of the Pings and up pops Amazing Grace chick or the closer chick running across the half of the damn screen.

STOP IT ALREADY.

Someone invent the chip you'll be mega rich.

evie

What's next popup commercials, ya know me I just have to say this...

Am I going to see a product ad while watching a TV series.

I'm watching DR G MEDICAL EXAMINER, she does the Y incesion on a corpse, opens it up pulls out the heart, then all of a sudden up pops an ad for MASSENGIL DUCHE running along the bottom of the screen, hose attached, floating across my screen.

Now that's disturbing.

evie

it ain't all good no mo.

Ron,

LMAO, PING!

Um are you's guys offended?

I noticed on my present logline the last sentence is edited out on the Movie Bytes page but not on the WinningScript page. Hmmmmmm.

I'm figuring since everybody compares the latest race of people being mistreated and victimized as the NEW BLACK present victums Mexicans.

Well I just thought humoriously to flip the script and say BLACKS ARE THE NEW WHITES.

I think that's funny and appropriate. Well someone didn't think it was funny.

Am I censored?

evie

Uh Oh can it be all good again. Strange

OOhhhh that's good.

So what you're saying is if I don't make it a seperate sentance then it will ride over to MB page, oohhhh.

thanks terry, my paranoid self was getting paranoid.

evie

don't worry be happy

Thank you for the heads up Mr. Mensch and I understand completely.

evie

its all good again.

Howdy folks,

Question from the rookie writer.

In the Final Draft format choices they list several different types of Screenplay formats.

I'm not sure what the difference is other than WB has this continue at the bottom with more in the center and continue at the top of the next page with a number on it.

The Cole and Haag doesn't do that, I don't think. See I just choose a different one each time I rework the script.

I'm doing it kinda like a eeny meeny miiney moo sorta thing.

Exactly which one is the one you're suppose to use to send to contests or somebody like that, just so I don't look too igg-no-rent?

Here's the choices:

Cole and Haag.fdt

Copy.fdt

Warner Brothers.fdt

Screenplay.fdt

I'm assuming it matters in the Writers Realm, the Seven Seasoned Scribes may abandon me, word weary writers may forsake me.

I may be cast into the Wilderness Well were wretched words wander weak without witness.

I aspire to become the Wordly Wizard Writer's Whimsical Warrior.

evie

it be'ith all good'ith

You must have money, that FD cost me a bundle, I would have had to sell my implants if I had any.

With the screenwriters bible don't you have to put in those dreaded margins, and all that stuff yourself?

Thanks for the help, I think.

evie

it's all good

The reason I ask is because some of these writers bibles scare you to death with their take on what the screenplay format should look like and that the readers and producers and literary agent, and whoever else will put your script down if it has the wrong format.

things like, the continue at the bottom, more in the middle, continue on the next page any numbers found for the scene count, or continue next to the Characters name etc.

thanks terry screenplay it is for now.

Thanks everyone, one more major hurdle in the effort of not looking too ametuerish, although that's not a bad thing, cause you can blame you're error on ignorance of the Writer's Rhealm Rules. What is the Law? Check with Dr. Morreuo's Island.

evie

john p,

thanks again, everythings okay.

evie

it's all good

Kudo's Janet

evie

Hey Folks

Did any of you sit in on that Chris Soth's teleseminar?

I did and thought it was fabulous, in that one session about building the tension was great, I got more information about screenplay writing than I would have ever gotten in a book.

I think its strange that no one on this board mentioned it.

Now I'd take his class but it cost too much so that leaves me out the picture.

It's called mini movie something.

What I found a shame was when everyone was coming into the seminar and some idiot had their radio on as if that wasn't bad enough the music that was playing sucked.

The majority of the people seemed to be from Cali, there was a gentleman from Vancover, one from Kentucky, that's where my mother was born.

So did anyone else sit in on this teleseminar?

evie

it was all good

Thanks Michael,

Seeing as the teleseminar was free you'd think more people from this board would have been there or maybe their just not saying.

Yeah that was it mini movie method.

The chances of Chris Soth coming to Texas is between slim and none. At least in NYC you have a chance, Michael.

TOO BAD YOU TEACHERS FOLKS DON'T OFFER A PAYMENT PLAN ESPECIALLY NOW. EVEN THE WRITERS ARE BROKE DUDES AND DUDEETS

evie

it might be all good

Hey Joseph,

I thought the same thing, once you hit that sight, the CIA can track you by your IP address then they send it to the headquarters, then they find out where you are then they track all your emails, then they find some dirt on you or your family then force you to help them find Bin Laden.

CIA if you want to find Mr Bin Laden send a woman over there. A man will always chase the tail.

The story goes...

King Bin El, loves female rappers, he flies in a group of sexy rappers for his 50th birthday for all the princes in his fold. CIA operative Diva Delicious gyrates her body gets on his good side discovers map for terrorist training camp run by DizzyLand Al Musrak.

imagination never runs out!

evie

it all good

Hey Folks,

I won tickets to go see this concert tonight in Dallas from a country western station. I entered the contest at Lone Star Park horse track.

Ladies I have never seen a place where the men out number the women, it was fabulous.

Now to get to the question.

Kid Rock is not country, the concert is called Rock and Rebel.

Is there going to be skinheads there cuz if there is I ain't staying.

Of course I'm going to go just to see what it's like. Ive been to AC DC, Metalica, and Grateful Dead concerts.

The Grateful Dead was the most unusual. People actually sold things in the parking lot, jewelry, food, posters stuff like that, most unusual, drugs of course. So the police where there to stop that.

I'm only asking cause I'm a fifty six year old black woman going to a concert with a bunch of younger white folks all by myself.

I'm only worried about the roughnecks cuz the election didn't change things that much.

If it was country western I can get by but its Kid Rock. I'm not sure about his music, he's not country. Lynard Skinner made Sweet Home Alabama which I know from the old days and kid rock kinda borrowed their melody.

I just hope I don't end up swing from the end of a rope on stage.

Why go you might ask? How are you to write about life if you ain't living it. This will be a very exciting adventure and I'm always up for adventures as long as I don't get killed.

evie

it's all good.

I wouldn't go to snoop dogg concert guns and fights are guaranteed.

Eric I love you, you're just so cute with a dynamite sexy voice. kisses to you dude.

I never said anything about race other than a skinhead would kill me okay color or no color they're just that way, just like the rappers. Snoop is a murderer. To get into the gang he was in (crypts or bloods) he had to kill someone he didn't know, so he's a MURDERER.

The younger concert goers are just a little more out there.

All I wanted to know was who would attended Kid Rock's, motorcyle folks, I don't think so. Head bangers, mosh pits, ya know the kind of stuff you see on TV.

I'll find out shortly cause it starts at 7 and I have a lawn seat, so I have to get there early.

besides I know how to fight just not how to knife people or shoot them, I don't know that.

racist naw just wondering.

and eric cutey pie you're da bomb. REPRESENT.

The native Hawains call whites howlies and they're not too happy that the big hotels bought up all their beach front property chasing them into the center of the island.

Race card, naw. That seems to be what you want to see eric.

oh well.

evie

it is all good and gonna get better.

Terry and James,

Thanks you both for understanding what I was asking.

A woman traveling alone has to be kinda careful where she goes.

The concert was an absolute blast. To my surprise it was an older crowd forty and up some youngins.

I counted six blacks including myself. But for some reason when blacks are outnumbered like that, we don't talk to each other it's the strangest thing but we don't.

The crowd was mostly hillbillies, motorcylce folks, tatoos galore on every inch of their bodies, the smushed up cowboy hats, no shirts.

Some how these women noticed me dancing, cuz I'm gonna have a good time where ever I am, I party by my self, cuz I am the party, the party doesn't get started till I arrive.

Anyway

These two older blondes start talking to me one was worried cause her boss is there a woman.

I'm a flirt and a tease so of course I flirted my heart out. One guy with no shirt nice compact muscle body, just got out of prison after five years, we start talking, seeing as I have South Dakota Cowboy I wasnt looking. I introd him to the boss lady, he asked her to let down her hair, she did and nature took over.

He kept telling me I was cupid and a nice sweet lady. Ahh shucks dude. The ladies have invited me over to a fourth of July picnic. It's Called NETWORKING.

The only thing I found strange was Lynard skinners background video. A big eagle and under the wings it says GOD on one side and GUNS on the other. GOD don't need no GUN to take your ass out!!!

Then at the end of their set on the big screen was The CONFEDERATE flag waving in the breeze. hmmm

Of course you have your youthful drunk that got tossed out. Then came back later and danced with me, so I explained that he was to young to get trashed like that, he said 'so', I said if you're trying to get the ladies attention being drunk ain't the way to do it. I pulled his hair back and said I don't care who the other drunk guy is, don't get hammered like that, the women don't like it. He said okay.

Me I was toasted. Now toasted and hammered are two different things. Toasted is a golden mellow buzz thing. where as hammered is tore up from the floor up.

From the lawn where I was you couldn't see much the people on the stage they looked like smurfs they were so small.

Kid Rock music was kicking except for the MF and DI K he had to mention in his songs.

Those wrappers that sing continuiously about getting the booty ain't gettin that much cuz their drugged out and drunk most of the time and that apperatice aint working under those conditions.

Thomas as far as me and the cowboy bars go, before I stepped foot in that or any bar I asked security if I would be all right.

Red River is my hangout so they know me. Now the new spot Electric Cowboys the folks are upper middle class hillbillies.

If I'm not mistaken here in texas it's good ole boys, west virginia it's hillbillies and the deep south it's country boys.

If we are all adults or at least on the fringes how come I can't ask a simple question like this?

If I were going to see Marilyn Manson shouldn't I know what to expect before hand, not that I would ever go see him but I think we're all mature enough for a little race question or are some of you that damn touchy.

If there is something you want to know about blacks for a script or something for GOD sake ask, so we don't end up with this forever misunderstanding.

The concert's refreshments, four dollars water and ten dollars beer. I'm glad I snuck in a bottle of gin, opps.

It was hot muggy, security was all over some even had pistolla's. Tailgate parties, I stayed for one cause they were parked next to my car.

It ended at 11:00 central time.

Would I recommend it yeah but buy the seats the lawn okay but you cannot see the performer.

good night all

evie

it's still absolutely all good

hey eric this is for you special. You know my humor and don't appreciate it.

In Hollywood death usually comes in three's. Ed McMann, Farrah F, and Michael J..

Well you see death really wanted three white people he took Michael by mistake so death had to take two more white people Karl Molden and the hawker dude with the beard to make up for Michael not really being white.

If you guys want a concert to beat all concerts go see TINA TURNER, she gives a fabulous show, she is one dynamic high energy performer. You definatly get your monies worth.

So Thomas please buy a ticket for TINA her many costume changes alone are unique. Thomas go to a concert that gets your adrienaline up, (however you spell it), where you can get up and dance, dance, dance, shake that money maker dude.

Terry there was one woman that was sorta like that. She had on a bikini top and daisy dukes. Her right tit was hanging out of the bottom of the bikini top, I don't believe she noticed it or was aware of it.

evie

Oh I forgot, when i was leaving there were these long clear plastic cups that people bought margarita's in that were rainbow colored, so I picked them up thinking they would make good barbells sorta things.

I passed this woman and her man and mentioned it, she says, "I think they'd make a good bong." I look at it and she's right, that never crossed my mind, but she's right. I'm a product of the sixties.

Another thing that never crossed my mind that a lady told me about. When you go to the movies take along those little bottle of wine you get in a four pack, there easy to sneak in, but don't throw the bottles in the trash take them out with you.

By golly I never thought of that but I tried it and it was awesome.

evie

PS the women at this concert were tatooed up too. What's those tatoos on a woman's backside for, really?

Is it like a landing strip signal so the man has a guide on where to enter the hanger? Just wondering.

Hey Terry,

I believe your blind character Calli's arc is not showing. Reviewer doesn't care about saving the orphanage it's about Calli's personal demons that get changed somehow, where Calli can say she's all that and a bag of chips.

The two reviews I got from two different reviewers was about the female leads arc this big change in personality, this big emotional makeover, this big I've changed miraculously, this life altering event has made her a better person, then she goes and jumps off a cliff.

lack luster arc one said, her inner turmoil not resolved says the other.

Events in one's life doesn't always change them and inner turmoil doesn't disappear cause you've reached the end of the script.

sounds like they want you to put some deep mind altering character flaw somewhere.

just commenting

evie

its all good

Kudos

man, oh man!

Oh, has anyone considred the Kairo's contest or are your skripts (intended mispelling) to full of notty bits.

They certainly have a lot of oh, no you can'ts listed.

evie

its all good ya'll

Howdy Mr Mensch,

My question.

On the winningscripts excerpt page exactly how many pages of the screamplay can you upload.

I remember when I first tried it you could at most get 10 pages.

Last night I tried for twelve and a half pages, (it looks kinda stupid cause page thirteen is only a half a page and I feel lucky I got that many.

So to make a long story longer, is there a specific amount of pages that can be uploaded onto winningscripts excerpt.

I feel blessed I got that many, just wondering, pondering, noodling.

Thanks

evie

it's all good

Ooohhhh I see.

Yes, I have to scan it into pdf then save it on a flash drive, then upload from there.

So for me I guess it's back to the drawing board. (like I really know what I'm doing, my bad)

Thanks a whole bunch.

evie

Howdy Paula,

I put my son in a fencing class, it was one fabulous sport.

He did the sabre not the foil, the teacher suggested the newbies start on the sabre.

It looked very intense my son ended up second in his class.

The greating of the contestants with the sabre is great.

evie

Howdy Dan,

I did it on Final Draft but when I tried it, it didn't work.

Maybe if I did FD pdf but since I'm using a mac. Actually Dan I don't know what the heck I'm doing. So I'm lucky to get the thing on there at all.

scan 12 1/2 pages on flash then upload. But I'm cool now, I think. It's called old timers disease or stuck on stupid.

evie

iag

I think it's because most everything is windows it wont speak mac, pdf or no pdf.

I print 13 page from mac then scan on the hp which is windows pdf save to flash or A drive (had to buy A drive equip separate seeing as new machines don't have A drive anymore). Then upload, most everything only speaks windows.

Sometimes when downloading an email attach on mac then try to open, mac says hell no, I don't read that windows crap. So I have to go to the HP and download there to see attachment.

oh well.

But thanks guys, just good knowing it's not all just me.

evie

it's all good

dearest Karen,

keep the humor coming, this board has it's stick in the muds, but humor is always needed.

professionals get paid. Seeing as no one on this board is making a living at writing and getting paid, then they ain't professionals!!!

say what you will Karen.

Just one bone to pick, Eric is mine and he cheated on me. all I got was a sexy voice you got the whole enchilada, I feel cheated, scorned, rejected, unloved, oh the pain of it all.

I too got feedback from script savvy good advice.

eric no man is an island, dude lighten up. you're always so serious, humor is a release like gas.

Karen keep'em coming.

I wasn't going to comment but the devil made me do it.

evie

it's all good

This board is like a big high school. The many different personalities is what keeps everyone coming back.

You have your high school clicks.

The popular boys and girls, the anti socials, the hippies, the nerds, the stuck-ups, the can't touch this, the know it alls, the goth's with the black lipstick, the biker's, the class clowns and last but not least, the TEACHER'S PETS.

But gang, this is what makes the world go round.

MB HIGH, some will graduate, some will drop out, but at least they came, they saw, they conquered, says Dr. Phil-a-mean-a.

evie

it's all good

secret board name 'LUNCHBOX HO'

karen, i be's a goot wryder, i be's studin at da skool of eeb'o-kneese.

MB High, I apologies for leaving out the JOCKS, my bad, you know the ones with the rock hard abs, muscles in da right or wrong places, so when you hug them feels like hugging a radial tire.

Oh and the snitches/tattel tells. If I have left out any group please feel free to add your personal favorites.

karen i cut off my ear for eric, like the artist guy of old. But I had to crazy glue it back on, the postage was too high to send to the island of wahkinckkii. I glued it back on during a drunken stupor, in the dark, now I can hear my ass loud and clear, knowing when it's full of shit.

evie

it's all good

karen, i be's a goot wryder, i be's studin at da skool of eeb'o-kneese.

MB High, I apologies for leaving out the JOCKS, my bad, you know the ones with the rock hard abs, muscles in da right or wrong places, so when you hug them feels like hugging a radial tire.

Oh and the snitches/tattel tells. If I have left out any group please feel free to add your personal favorites.

karen i cut off my ear for eric, like the artist guy of old. But I had to crazy glue it back on, the postage was too high to send to the island of wahkinckkii. I glued it back on during a drunken stupor, in the dark, now I can hear my ass loud and clear, knowing when it's full of shit.

evie

it's all good

Hey Lenoard,

I think the anit-social click covers your particular group.

Janet, so sorry, it's kinda hard to remember that far back. Our band used the elephant tusks, and antelope horns as the brass section. Certain students skulls made great percussions, such as marrakas. I didn't join, those stone tablets made it hard to turn the pages.

evie

Lenoard may I ask where you are?

Hey Lenoard,

wouldn't that be included under anti-social and goth?

Janet, my bad young lady, that was so long ago for me, music was written on stone tablets which made it hard to turn the page while playing the elephant tusks, percussions were made of shrukien skulls of disobedient students.

Lenoard, where are you dear? You didn't name the contest sweety you entered.

KUDOS SIR IRIN

KUDOS SIR IRIN

Hey Lenoard,

Usually you pay the doe first, pay pal, you get an email saying they got your doe, but don't wait for that.

Then you go back to the site, there's a link where it says to upload your script.

Then after you do that you should get an email telling you your script was recieved.

Then you sit and wait and wait and wait and wait some more.

Snookums, I only ask where you live, (not mental status, you already told me that) cause your typing is a little hard to read and understand, no offense.

I think you need to put the babies too bed then try typing with both hands. No offense sweetheart.

I speak and read ebonics, but you got me stumped, sweety. (hmmmm, if we keep talking like this we'll need to get a room)

evie

it's all good

Hey Lenoard,

Usually you pay the doe first, pay pal, you get an email saying they got your doe, but don't wait for that.

Then you go back to the site, there's a link where it says to upload your script.

Then after you do that you should get an email telling you your script was recieved.

Then you sit and wait and wait and wait and wait some more.

Snookums, I only ask where you live, (not mental status, you already told me that) cause your typing is a little hard to read and understand, no offense.

I think you need to put the babies too bed then try typing with both hands. No offense sweetheart.

I speak and read ebonics, but you got me stumped, sweety. (hmmmm, if we keep talking like this we'll need to get a room)

evie

it's all good

MB High I'm so sorry for the continuious double thing that's happening, I swear I only hit that button once, just once.

Whip me, beat me, call me Edna

evie

duh

de ja vu

Children, children, now lets calm down, it was just a little teasing between the boys. You know how boys can be.

So everyone take a deep breath, there it's all better.

Now Irin and Terry go to your seperate corners, stop with the spitballs. Shame on you's two.

Eric stop pulling Janet's braids, she doesn't like that and you know it, remember the last time you put that spider on her shoulder, so be nice.

Now everyone get back to your desks and get to work.

evie

MB Preschool

boys, boys did it ever occur to you that Irin knows somebody that knows somebody that knows somebody that knows somebootie, opps.

Jean, you're the flower child, jump in here, ya know 'the everything is beautiful in it's own way', kinda thing. That sunshine, lolipops and rainbows everything..., ya know or is it Bobby McGhee, Janice Joplin kinda thing?

okay I'm done.

evie

jean, by any chance were you at Woodstock? Ravi Shankar, Jimi Hendrixs, ya know that hippie stuff.

evie

Leonard

I finally spelled it right.

Your file was probably too large for their system to handle.

Oh that's right you did Kairos the John Templeton deal with all the rules about no dirty words, no nakedness, no violence, no this no that, but must be very very uplifting.

When I get back to work or find a new job then I can enter things but for now I just have to figure out how to eat, put gas in my car, (natural gas don't work, I tried it, got my ass stuck), the contests have to wait.

So you're a murderer of women, hmmmm. Pass.

evie

it's all good

Patchouli?

Uh Oh James, Jean just put a hit out on you, that's the code word.

Jean I looked up MB High yearbook and you're with the greasers not the flower children, my bad.

Bobbi de Bassini, Anthony de Altoro and Timmi de Tenorini are Jean's cousin. Didn't they write the song 'tiny bubbles on the horses head that's on my bed?' It had that catchy melody.

Jean changed her name cause it was too ethnic Hunteronikus, she's greek, and the greeks run the mob.

James, you're dead meat buddy. You blew Jean's cover, you're toast dude.

evie

it's allikus, goodikus

Patchouli?

Uh Oh James, Jean just put a hit out on you, that's the code word.

Jean I looked up MB High yearbook and you're with the greasers not the flower children, my bad.

Bobbi de Bassini, Anthony de Altoro and Timmi de Tenorini are Jean's cousin. Didn't they write the song 'tiny bubbles on the horses head that's on my bed?' It had that catchy melody.

Jean changed her name cause it was too ethnic Hunteronikus, she's greek, and the greeks run the mob.

James, you're dead meat buddy. You blew Jean's cover, you're toast dude.

evie

it's allikus, goodikus

ya think

evie

this is getting real tired.

You okay out there Ron Brassfield, long time no hear.

Hope silence in this madness, meaning you're onto something, anything, bigger than big. (what ya'll trying to say, it's just me?).

Just let the folks know what's up. Remember, where ever you are, there you are. MAD MAX THUNDERDOME

evie

I will push this button once. I swear before the gods of the motherboard. The mouse will be executed.

Gee thanks Jean, I take that as a compliment!

Maybe Ron you're working on LORD OF THE PINGS, you hit that synopsis, dead on.

Fredo, what a hoot.

evie

Hey Larry,

Thanks for the slap-up side the head. I am guilty of said transgression. I considered myself served.

In other words it's back to the drawing board. I'll get it right EVENTUALLY.

forever learning

evie

It's easy to throw a gernade into the camp if your not there.

I don't think I see some of the commentors script loglines posted on winningscripts.

Its the same people over and over including myself, at least we took the leap of faith to be out there.

So step up to the plate and lets see your rendition of a logline and your script out there.

evie

it's all good

leonard

you can enter as many contests has you have money for. I don't believe there is a limit.

evie

the contest do not own your script

Hey Ron,

welcome home

evie

it's all better now

Hey Lee,

You haven't been paying attention.

We all just got spanked for doing the very thing you're doing.

Let's see if I got this right...

don't mention character's name

no longer than two sentences, short sentences taboot

what you have might be a synopsis, maybe

and it jumps off the page to some producer or studio or someone in the biz with commercial value

okay what did I leave out, who knows? Don't worry you're going to rewrite that logline a billion time just like reworking the script ten billion times.

in other words be prepared for a smackdown.

evie

it's all good

UH OH Leonard, question about censors?

What ya gettin ready to do, dude.

I think I would have been censored long ago.

evie

its all good

Paula

you must be an excellent speller, spell check has always been there.

my spellink dont be qiut rihgt so i bes nowing.

evie

Yes, yes, I know the character must change somehow, but how big of a change must it be.

My character doesn't want to be in the town, however her life before was stagnant and boring but a life none the less.

At the end she's convinced to stay cause the town really needs her.

Evidently this is not enough for that magic arc of her's. How much does this person need to change. Events in real life don't alway change you to some magically better or worse person. Or for the sake of the story she must have some fabulous life altering change.

what say you's? Please explain.

evie

it's all good

Okay so far...

It's my bad not to explain her position to you in full.

She is a northerner who arrives in a southern town, a family promise forces her to be there, her only want is to get her time there over with and leave.

Her main issue to me is her past military service, makes her feel she can do everything by herself, no help needed and doesn't want anyone's help.

This attitude puts her in a position of being murdered.

It seems from what I'm hearing is I have to show this through actions not have her explain it, I've changed the ending three times, trying to make this miracilous change (jones of ARC) thing happen.

What happened to her in the military is not something she would share easily with anyone. The townfolk find out about it after she's kidnapped. Hence in the end they want her to stay, she reluctantly does after they present her with an American flag.

Hopefully this puts ya'll a little closer to what I'm trying or is it the character's trying or is it the story's trying to say.

Lost in the Arc de Triumph, ya feel me.

evie

it's all good

Oh Tom, let the boys duke it out.

Isn't this an example of the male pissing contest?

or

Two art-tists in a battle of words as too who's is the biggest? Dicksionary!

Harvey dear, Eric will never understand so save you're breath, and Eric we all know your tempermant by now sweety so boys haggle on.

MB High cat fight.

evie

I just had to get in the mix, it's my duty.

Oh thomas, my anglish be's just a goot as antibodees,

Oh the traumus of its all.

Da boyees habe made up, a mutual back slapping has occured. Goot fo dem.

comma period comma period?

Dis bulletens board be's fabalicious. When emotions fly dat's a good ting, ya'll just as long as der be no mane callins.

kiss, kiss, diss, diss.

evie

PU I've reread this post and don't really understand what all the hub bub was about. Only one was offended.

it's all good folks

Hey Thomas Jr,

Why you keep knocking my books off my desk and breaking my pencils?

So you have a degree in English, but I'm gonna tell the principal on you.

Yeah it was me that put glue on your desk so your butt got stuck.

Yeah it was me that video taped you skipping down the halls in your kilt, swinging your hannah montana lunchbox, then put it on the net. Na na nanana.

If you hadn't broken my favorite big blue laddie pencil none of that would have happened.

Awhile back I apologized to both you and eric for my comments, ah but not anymore. On guard buddy.

So did I get all my commas, periods and so forth in the right places blankety blank boy?

evie

see thomas I still love you even though you're so mean to poor little defensless me. boohoo, waaaaaah

Hey Harvey,

No you didn't start anything that hasn't been started before. So you're okay.

A Duel huh? Well this should be veeerrrryyy interesting.

knit the wit with wilde bits.

evie

Tally ho

Hey gang,

Pat Timothy Smith on the back.

Dear Timothy,

Congratulations! You have advanced into the Quarterfinal Round of the 2009 Nicholl Fellowships in Screenwriting. In so doing, Final Status is one of only 321 entries to survive the First Round.

If he won't toot his own horn I'll do it for him. He is a MB High student.

Yea, Timothy Jay Smith.

evie

it's all good

Oh my goodness, gang, gang please this is getting way out of hand.

Good Lord, how did this conversation come to this?

everyone take a deep breath, that's right breath, that's good.

What the hell happened here? Why jump on Harvey like that? Why insult this man like that?

Oh my goodness, the flying fur has gotten out of hand totally. Fur balls aplenty.

Harvey mearly asked for some feedback help and wow the fighting is getting way, way, way too personal.

For crying out loud, it's called first amendment rights. Oh my goodness and holy smoke. He said nothing to offend, why jump on him like that. Holy smoke.

Everyone take a deep deep deep breath and take two steps back. Merciful heaven.

This board is for exploring different perspectives of different peoples lives. No one thinks alike, no one. Let the man have his say. All of you have had your say, so why can't he. Merciful heavens.

Good Lord this should have never gotten to this point. Oh my goodness.

evie

bad babies, bad, bad, bad babies!

Hey Fellow Moviebyters,

If any producers, directors, agents, etc, etc, etc, every came to this bulletin board, I think they would run in fear.

I think we're suppose to be demonstrating how we can get along, work together, play together, poke fun together and so on. Some squabbling is expected but not out and out dissing each other so ug-oh-ly.

Poking fun is one thing calling a man out his name is something else. Holy smoking hey zues.

I know I'm on the late freight but what did Harvey do or say that got the CLICK so upset?

I've read only one person's personal thread but not anyone else's.

Some of you' need to go to IMDb board called Shop Talk, no one gives their real name, no one. You'll get scalped there.

To me personally the massive writer egos have gotten in the way. Everyone on this board has made major typo's, incorrect this, incorrect that, so let's all stroke the massive writer egos cause art-tists are sensitive people, a little overly sensitive.

Writers are in the business of make believe. An actor lives in a make believe world. It's their job to play someone their not. Keith Ledger got too into his character and when the shooting ended he didn't seem to know how to get out of the character's mind.

In other words this makes us all posers cause we tell a story that's not us, the characters are not us, the setting is not where we live, the circumstances are not our circumstances, so ain't that posing in a roundabout way?

It seems that we talk serious formating, creative and structure questions, but every now and then we pick on each other for artistic release. Please do not take yourselves so serious. When you strike it rich then you can act an a-whole, until then, just be a buttwhole.

evie

it's all good sometime, every now and then, could be again.

Hey Jim M.

If there was no real arc of someone in TAKEN how did this movie get over or get made?

In the movie ALIEN, Ripley didn't change at the end she escaped alive is that considered an arc?

I'm assuming it was because the action in TAKEN or the special effects in ALIEN made these movies go over the top.

I do not expect my first script to be an Oscar contender. I'm trying to reach a specific group of people and not all audiences will understand it or appreciate it. It started out as a love story but reviewer has changed it into something I wasn't trying to do.

I had the genre as Historical romance supernatural but was quickly told that ain't so. I figured cause there are two different timlines, post civil war america and the present so that would put it in a historical spot, not so I'm told. I'm so lost now I don't know what to make the damn thing. It now stands at supernatural thriller cause that's what I was told. Oh well.

Does Batman change at any time cause he's still sleeping hanging upside down and still tripping over his parents murder. Of course transformers change that's what the movie is all about, changing.

Thanks for the advice and the good revelations. Thanks Paula for responding.

evie

it's all good

Paula,

What?

What does that mean miss lady?

evie

He ain't me and I ain't him.

If I got this right Paula you think I'm him?

Well for crying out loud. I congrat someone who doesn't visit this landmine bulletin board and you assume something like that.

A lot of folks on this site don't post on this board. Check the names of the scripts on the pro service. The majority of those people do not post on this board. I would assume they have other things to do or know it all already or afraid they might offend.

If I must explain to you Paula, here it goes. When I first came to MB back in 2007 Tim cussed me out over my logline quite literally tore me a new awhole. He's done that to someone else cause there was a thread named Who's Timothy Smith.

We've emailed each other and become friends, you know what a friend is don't you Paula?

He emailed me this nichol thing cause he said he just had to tell somebody. I figured I'd let the board know that he was in the running. Well excuse the hell out of me Miss Thang for wanting to give the man his props.

I hope you can see why not very many new people or old people bother to come to this board. If my memory serves me right I got jumped by board members myself because I didn't go along with the pack mentality.

What you've done to this Harvey person is a disgrace. I still don't know what he's done to you's to make you attack him that way.

My, My, My. Can't we all just get along?

If you haven't noticed Paula it's the same people on this board over and over and over again. Holy smoking hay zues.

There does that clear me of any shenanigans Miss Lady

evie

Thanks Ron,

I'll have to read this over and over and over till I understand completely. It's definately putting me on the right track.

Thanks everyone for your help.

Ron, the independence and interdependence is exactly what I'm trying to do for the present character, the one in the past fate has already been sealed.

evie

it's all good!

I'm actually Kaiser Solsay.

Hey Paula,

you seem to drop Mr Mensch's name an awful lot. Envoking his name to put people off the site that don't happen to agree with Paula. Hmmmm

Could it be SATAN? Or You got the super powers from above?

evie

may the gods of the motherboard implore you.

quote from Miss Paula.

We've asked Frederick to stop it, but his line is one of the funniest I've read. He said he couldn't because he would just be "playing whack-a-mole with lunatics."

That be you talking during fellowshipping.

You got that kind of power Miss Lady? Hmmmmm

evie

Oh Irin my dear man,

We can not possibly leave out romance.

Thomas Jr. I knew you still loved me. Your defense of my honor is soooo swwweeett. Kiss, Kiss my munchkin.

True to your form. The way you defend me then slap me down with an insult is your special way of loving me sweetness. No one can take your place, Thomas Jr. no one.

comma period comma comma period. Yammer, yammer, yammer the hammer of love.

evie

aahhhhhh, it's all still good, no matter what!!!

I write to escape to another world where I control the outcome.

evie

it's all good.

Hey Timothy nice to see you here.

Pardon me if I ask this question.

When I first started my screenplay I finished at 130 pg. I considered it part one of the saga.

Put it in a free contest and got chewed up for the many pages. Reworked everything and got it down to 93 pages thinking, well this should make it more reader friendly if the reader doesn't have to read one million and one pages.

Sent to reviewer was told I should have added on more to act three making it up to 105 pages.

Well I've rethought it and I'm still at 93 pages. My thinking is still maybe readers won't be so pissed at the script if they don't have to read a whole lot of pages, make it easier to handle, etc, etc, etc., blah blah blah.

I would think you'd have to take all of this into consideration. I can't send anything out right now but I think I've got the tale down pat. I've nailed it on the head. blah blah blah. Does the page count matter? Cause I don't think I need to add anything else cause there's nothing else to add.

Are there any professional readers, especially contest readers (covertly, undercover) who could say what turns them off before they even pick up the spec. script? What burns their bottoms before turning the first page? What makes them throw the script against the wall before they read the title? What has already made their mind up about the script when it's handed to them?

(Punctuation not included)

Oh and why does FD 7 add a page or two at the end when they're blank and you can't delete them?

Okay so it was a bunch of wonderings. I still say I got the script nailed down, the story anyway the punctuation is still pending. I'll pay someone else to do that, later, much later.

Thanks a bunch folks.

evie

it's all good

damn it, dagnabit, datburnit

Script magazine has article this month 'what turns readers off' or something like that. damn it. page 8 first article. damn it.

if first page has history on it forget about it, something like that. damn it.

I do a photo montage on first page, damn it, damn it damn it. I guess that's just tooooo easy huh?

thanks everyone who responded, I'll eventually get this right. I think what you're saying is I can go up if need be, but not too far up.

For now, until I enter something or get another review, I'm not changing jack. It looks just fine to me.

By the way I happened to have liked Howard the Duck, great spec effect for that time period. I absolutely hated Napoleon Dynamite too f'ing long and too f'ing boring.

Pootie Tang is fabulous. The main character speaks jibberish through the whole movie but somehow you kinda understand what he's saying. Raise your hand if you saw Pootie Tang. Would like to see what that script looks like.

evie

it's all good

I'm just wondering.

As writers can you ever again enjoy a movie without tearing the thing apart?

Every movie you see you try to find the structural mistakes, the arc, the subtext, subplot, reversals etc, etc, etc?

After working for my father's family painting business, every time I enter someone's home, place of business, whatever. I'm continuioulsy looking at the paint job, did they cut the ceiling right without getting paint on it.

Does the print on the wallpaper match at the seams. Are the seams separating so you can see the bare wall.

Did the painter leave what we called cat eyes when rolling the walls which means not enough paint on the roller. Did they just lift the roller off the wall instead of rolling it off, did they roll sideway, that's a absolute no, no.

Did they lay the paint off on the woodwork, meaning brush the paint into one long smooth surface.

That just drives me crazier.

Do you guys do that at every movie you see, that seems like a kill joy for the flick don't you think?

evie

its all good

KUDOS!

Bottom line is ya'll ain't enjoying the movies anymore, not at all.

I'm usually looking at continuity.

In Exorsist (however you spell it) the beginning. Inside the buried church scene, Father Maron comes down the ladder, the black guy hands him the lantern, but when the next priest comes down the ladder the black guy still has the lantern, then all of a sudden he doesn't anymore. Somebody messed up.

And that FeeFon to you pal or PeePon

evie

it's all good

don't forget Igor or Ike

Hey MB Hires,

I sent out a query letter, so to make my script sound big time I mentioned it was registered with the WGA.

Now I'm freaking out.

I originally registered the first version of script I wrote in 2007. If I remember correctly you had to send a hardcopy, right?

After revamping, redecorating, re-ree'ing it, it ain't the same. Plots the same, sorta, characters same some dropped, execution not the same.

Okay question is...

Since I changed it dramatically from what I sent to WGA, do I have to send another one, A-sap? Do you keep sending revised scripts every time you change it, even a little.

Who am I kidding you never change the thing a little.

I added a scene to include some explosions, cause I like explosions in movies, big fireballs and plumps of smoke rising in the sky, the sub woofer kicking the bass so your ribcage vibrates, okay, okay back to the question.

I think I read something, but can't remember.

If these people that I sent letter to have the earthly producer powers to access script on WGA web, my ass is toast.

What say you'se

evie

it's all good

Irin

The question is do I have to send a revised hardcopy (printed paper copy with brads, cardstock cover, the whole bit) so the old one is not the one sitting in their underground vault protected by the notorious nitro nuclear nano ninjas?

Didn't you send a hardcopy (paper copy) to them?

evie

thanks everyone

So if I'm understanding right, I can either send a hard copy or email PDF of re-re-re-re-vised script.

Thanks again.

evie

it's all good

what have you been smoking, man? Mellow Yellow? Electrical Banana? Go see Alice when she's ten feet tall?

You just need some sexercise dude, that ought to loosen you up, get those mental juices flowing.

evie

"you're you and I'm me and that's why I love you." quoted from Sanford and Son

Oh Janet,

You know what you have to change for them to accept your musical.

Try different avenue, hollywood will never do your film, it must be an independent studio.

You know exactly what I mean. Sorry to say.

Go after Debbie Allan, she's a dancer if you haven't already.

evie

it's gonna be much better for you, cause God says, so.

kudos

want to be one in a million

special effects can't carry a movie, there has to be a story somewhere.

evie

just another white man saves the darkies movie. big deal never saw it and never will, same old, same old.

secret life of bees, a real tear jerker good acting. story revolves around little white girl. same old same old.

Please everyone excuse me, I did not mean for this to go this far.

I no longer have access to internet at home I have to go to library to use it. so that why you have not heard from me.

Trailer of grand torino show eastwood holding a shotgun on some young homies. that's all I saw on commercial so I don't want to see that cause in real life eastwoods would have been toasted and smoked.

Here's example of what I mean white saving darkies

TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD. what was this story's saying? Gregory Peck white, Brock Peters, black

A TIME TO KILL, what was this story saying, Mat McCona hayhay white and Samuel Jackson black.

Its the same damn story is it not only difference is Samuel did fire up the white boys asses.

Terry, Anastashia Assinine lives on the next block.

I did not stur the pot I ONLY STATED MY OPINION. PERIOD.

thank you.

Due to technical difficulty Evie cannot respond immediately.

evie

it's all good

P.S.

when I make a comment I stand by what I say!

by any chance are any of these companies and contests listed with the Better Business Bureau?

evie

question is?

when writing the action line and description line, I was told I need to be more concise.

Now I'm thinking that means cut down on description and the action. What's going on with the actor while delivering a line.

for instance in NO GETTING OUT

Desmond's sleeps peacefully, wears boxers, sheet comes to his waist.

Ala'Lee sits on the love seat, studies him, touches his shoulder.

Ala'Lee, "Desi wake up. Desmond, wake up.

He wakes with a start, looks around, squints at her, puts on his glasses.

Desmond, "What? Where the hell am I?

Ala'Lee "Morning, Remember me?

Desmon, "What time is it?

Desmond stretches, scratches his manhood.

Ala'Lee notices the bulge, gets up, hurries to the kitchen, stutters.

Ala'Lee, "Six thirty. I, I cooked breakfast."

Desmond, "I normally don't sleep this deep. I'm usually up before dawn pacing the floor."

Desmond gets out of bed, stretches, walks towards the kitchen.

Ala'Lee tries not to look at his body, turns away.

Ala'Lee, "I put some fresh towels in the bathroom for you, so you can clean up. I'll set the table on the balcony.

Desmond, "Can I get a hug from my new wife?

Ala'Lee is trapped.

Ala'Lee, "We're only married on that little piece of paper. I don't think that would be a good idea."

my question...

do I have to say she's embarassed or director figures that out. Previous dialogue explains the situation. The characters did not sleep together. He's on the sofa bed.

Am I giving too much direction info in this exchange?

How much do I leave up to the director to figure out. After all it becomes what he sees doesn't it. Cause if he makes Ala'Lee smile as she goes to kitchen or walks instead of races away that changes her character immensly.

I'm from the theater (stage plays) and a lot of info is given on where you have to be on stage, what your doing. How you look at a person, how you react to them. mostly hands gestures have to be big.

In film your hand gestures cannot be as big cause it's distracting. People talk with their hands, on camera you can't do that cause the movement of your hands looks larger than life.

Movies most of the feelings are in the facial expressions and or a log in the fireplace crackles, a leaf falls lazily and so on.

On the stage the person sitting in the back row in the balcony can't see a raised eyebrow so you have to project that in body language or voice inflections and so on.

The description I'm assuming is where the action is taking place. A barn, house, car, outer space.

Action is physically what's going on, a slap, running, car chase.

Do we say the car is red, and flips over. Or director decides the car is black to make it look more deadly and has it flip fifty times?

Maybe I didn't pick the right example but close enough.

What is more concise mean? I was told I'm not writing a novel so I'm assuming I don't tell as much in action or description.

evie

it's all good

Hey Patrick,

In one of the screenplay books it says not to have actors be talking heads.

So doesn't that mean you can't have them just sitting or standing talking to each other, that they have to be doing something. Not too much of something but something?

Do I put that in or does director decide that? Of course it would be something that pertains to what's going on, like turns abruptly, shakes their head, winks you know small stuff.

thanks

evie

Thanks a bunch guys.

I'll go through scripts and see where I can doctor things up and cut somethings down.

I think my problem is describing how the character feels in a scene I'm trying to do it with actions and descriptions when I should let the dialogue to that.

okay, thanks

evie

kudos to everyone

have a drink on me

evie

Holy smokin hay Zeus Ron I give.

Obviously I don't know what I'm doing. Your version sounds so clean and polished. No fair.

At least give me credit for admitting I'm clueless. I think it's dumber not to ask if you don't know. I don't know so I asked.

Well I guess there's nothing else for me to say. I hate when that happens.

If I had 349 bucks I could take the screenwriting class at SMU. I don't so can and would you guys hold my hand and teach me what you know, please. I can't be the only nincompoop in the room, okay so I am.

evie, the obvious rookie here.

it's all good though, live and learn

Ron,

Okay, the hook thing, okay. Thanks.

evie

James,

I just saw the movie Twilight, how come this writer decided to change the facts about vampires.

In the old movies vampires couldn't go out in the day cloudy or not. The sun vaporizes them. This vampire dude went into the sunlight and glittered like gold.

in the movie underworld the chick looks in the mirror. Everyone knows vampires don't have a reflection in the mirror.

How do these writers just take it upon themselves to change the vampire rules?

evie

As I recall when a vampire turns into a vampire he's an ugly bastard, in twilight you never actually see them turn into the ugly bastards that they are.

The little girl had some major issues. If the guy is ice cold how do you kiss him without your lips and tongue sticking to his lips and tongue. Forget about doing the do. Popsicle yardarm anyone?

Okay I got carried away pardon me?

The mummy stuck to the rules. Someone has to read the magic words and give him the drink made with shrooms to bring him back for his woman. He continuously comes back for the chick.

Blade was a day walker who had a major drug problem, lost boys with Kiefer Sutherland rode motorcycles.

Sometimes stakes through the heart don't work you have to cut off the heads. Sometimes crosses don't work either. I'll have to talk to the Vampire's Union.

So I guess as a writer you can take theatrical license to make your story work. Vampires don't love anyone they love your blood.

evie

you guys are silly.

Oh and isn't it the rule that if you killed the vampire and werewolfe that bit you, you can be a human again?

Twilight forgot about the turning into a bat thing or whatever. This guy could run fast like super man and could climb trees like a monkey real fast. Wouldn't it have been easier to shape shift?

evie

What a pain in the butt when you're writing about older characters

If the character's 37, you have to figure out how old the parents are.

At what age did they have the 37 year old.

I spend so much time counting on my fingers trying to figure out, were they 20, 25 30, so how old is parent now. 60, 65.

If I make parent too old how will the parent have a love interest, cause at 70 I'm not sure if gettin busy is an option. One actor fathered a child at 71 Anthony Quinn but he might be an exception.

In UNFINISHED LOVE, the midget woman has a son. At first I had her in her early 20's but her son was 10, well that didn't work and I didn't even pick up on it until reviewer pointed it out. Dagnabit. I can still make her younger cause she didn't have this child willingly. so I dropped the kids age to 7.

NO GETTING OUT Ala'Lee is 37, her older brother is 39, her youngest brother is 32, now I got to figure out how old does her father have to be, 50+ or 60+.

But in the old days people married younger than they do now. I know when I graduated in the 70's you got married right out of high school, of course I didn't cause I wanted to see the world and I did, but most of my friends kids are grown while I have a 13 year old.

This age thing what a pain. Math, I hate math. At least I can use my toe calculator.

evie

its all good.

Thomas say it ain't so...

Script needs a professional screenplay proof-reading service (lots of typos, words left out of sentences or redundant words, punctuation errors)

No Thomas not you? How can this be, not you, Yoda, not you?

Thomas I just couldn't let this pass. The man that hounded my ass about comma's and periods eternally, to the umpteenth power? I just couldn't pass it up. Sorry, you know how childish I am. I just couldn't pass it up.

Yes, the columbian pot get's a chance to call the green tea kettle, black.

Okay my baby ass has had my fun.

truly yours and mine

evie

its all fabulous from now on and on and on. I love you even more, Thomas Jr. you're human after all, Dude.

kudos

evie

Thomas,

I be's good at boat mathis and anglish. If you's be 30 den yo dadther's not bone yet. comma period comma, comma periods

se i be's goot in boat subjectes.

as a mature tv watcher (okay somewhat mature) ain't much out there for me to see. I've had it with younger T's and A's. But it seems that's all there is. How come no necked men, the full monty.

A new series called Cougar? That chick is only 40, that ain't nothing, for crying out loud.

evie

it be's all goot.

I've discovered the answer to an age old mathematical question that's been plaguing world renown nobel prize winning quantum physics wizards, has stumped the brightest mathematicians in the realm of nuclear physics.

One and another one just like it, standing beside each other, side by side, eqauls the mighty numerical symbol, given to us by the gods, eleven.

Ta'Da

evie

kudos

lots of terms and rules for cosby.

evie

Okay how do you let reader know that time has past in a scene but it's the same scene just later.

I believe I read where you just say 'Later'

or

Do you write a description, like the candle fills the holder? Ya know what I mean.

Or 'the clock now reads 12am, but don't you have to show the clock in the first place?

evie

Dan

Stop looking through my windows, for heaven sakes. Later, your briefs were to big. And it was my toes that were sore.

Thanks I think.

evie

Okay which is it, new scene heading with later or same scene heading with LATER in caps.

At least I didn't break my arm like Hillary Clinton did. She should have known you can't do that many dignitaries at one time in under an hour.

evie

so which is it?

Dan your so sweet a curvy tush, I wish. Now for a little more drama.

Okay this is from NO GETTING OUT We go from Gayle's Bedroom to her bathroom back to the bedroom. Now seeing as its the same area just a few steps away I'm assuming I do scene changes. Okay, but this happens in all the same time period.

So later can be in the scene heading or later after the shower, I'm assuming the shower took some time. Or I don't have to say later at all cause Gayle's wet?

I'm going to try to put scene on bulletin board so will see. We'll see.

evie

Dan good job lmao

I changed to include later in scene heading. I hope this pdf thing works. NO GETTING OUT

okay so it didn't show up you have to download, oh well

evie

its all good

Julia

where's your sense of the funny?

evie

Could my life get any????

In june I was put off social security disability. I didn't see it coming so now I've been penniless since June. Absolutely penniless.

I'm so ashamed that I had to go to the food pantry. Embarrassed that I had to go to a baptist church and be ridiculed for being a catholic to get a fifty dollar gift card cause the catholic church is too far away.

I applied for food stamps in July but the appointment isn't till NOVEMBER 4th.

At first I qualified for unemployment on July 5th then I didn't, cause school job would start back on Aug 18th but no money for two whole weeks Sept 4th. I resigned before I assaulted the manager. My emotions where running way to high to put up with the okie from the skokie. The teachers called her Hitler.

I got my teacher retirement fund back yesterday went to the bank but in order to get cash back I had to open a new account and get a temporary debit card.

Tried to pay electric over phone with card, no can do, no security number on back, go to bank get cash, go across town on a tire that keeps going flat even after twice filling it with fix a flat, to pay bill 274 bucks and thats not a total payment.

I decide I'll treat myself to breakfast at Denny's, waitress brings coffee, I go to bathroom. While washing my hands, (don't need swine flu) I look in the mirror and low and behold what do I see? A urinal. I'M IN THE MENS ROOM for crying out loud. I'm not packing one of those.

get back to table, waitress gave away my seat, for heaven sakes.

Enough already, its that Job syndrome thing happening where God and Satan are betting on me. Looka here God I'm not going to turn my back on you so stop with the beat down already. How the hell did Satan sneak into heaven anyways, I think God needs to fire some of the guards cause they ain't doin their job.

I just had to share that with you. I am at an absolute stand still right now. I am down right pissed, angry, and ashamed.

No pity party, even Job got blessed tremendously after he got wiped out. So I have to believe that something fabulous is coming my way eventually, dagnabit.

and Dan, no I was not wearing over sized briefs, no boxers, no thong, just old lady bloomers. In fact Dan you probably changed the restroom signs and hid in the vent, datgumit. If I see my ass on U'tubby I'm suing for cuntinuous hair-ass-mint. I should have known where I was cause of the smell, au de toilet. eewwww

evie

it's going to get better. I have to believe that, have to, wholeheartedly.

Thanks James I have to believe that it will work out.

At Denny's when I went to pay for breakfast with temp debit card, the register wouldn't take card. I offered my drivers license until I could go to gas station's ATM, Nope won't work. I asked well what can we do? I'm thinking they don't let you wash dishes anymore, so I guess I'm going to jail. Waitress let me go to gas station, so I went and got money to pay bill. Tipped waitress three bucks.

I went home and went to bed.

You know that old saying 'the best steel has to go through the fire. I'm thinking how strong do i have to be? I think my steel got left in the fire and is melting, daggumit, dagnabit, consarnit, damn it.

I'm finding getting a job at my age isn't going to be easy. Everywhere I go the workers are kids, 35 and younger.

evie

Heather,

Yeah he did say bad things to me about being Catholic. About how we baptise our kids shortly after they're born. Says it like giving the kid a bath. I never went back for another gift card.

An Apostolic pastor told me all catholics are going to hell.

My mother is dead so he's telling me my mother went to Hell? This happened at my brothers house cause he converted to the holy roller church. I never went back to my brothers house again. But that church is no out of business.

I went to Gov Rick Perry's face book and let the republican governor know that he represents all the people in the state, not just big shot money republicans, but us peons too.

Thank you guys for your prayers, the devil is a liar and incapable of telling the truth.

Years ago, I made the mistake of thinking logically. I figured if God can forgive anything, why not forgive the Devil? So I prayed for the devil to change his ways. Lord have mercy what a mistake that was. Trouble aplenty. I guess prayer can't change him, that won't work.

Thanks again for your prayers.

evie

boys, boys enough with the pissing contest. WOW!

use your writing talents to attack each other no out right insults here. You all can do better than this. I give it a score of 3. You all are much better than this.

evie

write away men, show us better insults. Much more entertaining.

Janet

No question is dumb.

evie

Holy smokin Hey Zeus.

you guys ain't playin are you.

It's not what you know it's who you know in hollywood.

This new series MODERN FAMILY or whatever that crap is called.

What an insult to adoptive families and children.

Two gay guys with an adoptive female toddler, with a big afro wig on debating if she's Diana Ross or Donna Summers. How in hell's name is that funny. then they lock the child in the car. How is that funny.

The guy who used to play Al Bundy adopts a mexican boy, kid wears a poncho and Al says 'am I gonna drive him to school or is he gonna ride a donkey'. And this was just the trailer. Good golly miss molly. What producer okayed this?

Who the hell thought that that would be funny enough to put on the air? I think they just crushed the adoption agencies and children and adoptive parents.

Gentlemen, your insults are too direct. Mesmerize us with better zingers, not so in your face. where's the hooks, where's the keep us guessings, where's the reversals?

Dan you had me, I thought your company was for real until I got to the end. So now I'll take my head out of the oven cause the damn oven is electric.

evie

must one of the characters refer to the title of the script for what ever reason. Ya know must one of them say it during the dialogue. is this rule etched in stone.

evie

kudos

A reviewer told me to use more transitions. Do I have to use transitions continuously to move from scene to scene cause that's not easy to do.

Then I was told to use the three dots (...) transition, yeah I know it has a name but I'm not near the review right now or the screenwriters bible to look up the name. Espies, epelets something like that to show transition from that particular scene to the next scene.

FD has a transition button, but I never use it cause I'm afraid it might blow up the script, eject me out of the room.

Okay fearless leaders what say you on transitions from scene to scene?

evie

The scene was moving from the present to the past.

evie

I cut and pasted the note.

So I was going from the past to the present, my bad.

Reviewer writes

On page 13, there is an interesting transition from the past to the present as a paper exchanges hands and gets into Mirian's hands. Adding an ellipsis can break up this transition or adding DISSOLVE or FADE TO so there is a smoother transition.

So what say you, learned ones.

evie

its all good

Irin this is what the other reviewer said. Transitions is plural, from present to past, so on and so on.

The Ghost of Capt Eli presence in a scene takes the scenes to the past. But not all the time.

Different Reviewer suggestions (copied and pasted).

"Incorporate the use of transitions between the time periods and to create a better visual flow between all of the scenes."

Okay, I'm asking cause I don't know. One says this, the other one says that. You learned ones say this and that.

What say you?

evie

its all good

Both reviewers said story idea is UNIQUE. So that gives me hope.

Just thought I'd say that.

evie

Thanks guys for your attention.

So what I'm hearing is use transitions sparingly, but when necessary use it.

Okay thanks again.

evie

it's all good

MB HIGH,

Come on you two, Stephen and Dan, enough with the chest beating in the school on who's write and who's rong.

Stop riling up the students in the lunch room to take sides. Both of you are right in your own way. I think the rest of the student can figure things out.

You can't transfer stephen and dan you can't be expelled. It's all about the money, CHA CHING.

I personally think its a Sybil thing happening here. Stephen and Dan are the same person having an alter ego issue.

While in London I asked an Arab guy why the Arabs hated the Jews so much when their brothers through Ishmeal and Isaac sons of Abraham? When both buried their father together. He said brothers usually fight the hardest. OOhhhhh.

So gentlemen go back to your classrooms and shame on you both or you one.

There is no taking sides here. The voice of reason???

evie

it's all good

Both of you stick to what you do best. WRITING!!! dagnabit. Both of you have valuable advice that's needed concerning screenplay writing. datgumit.

evie

LONDON, ENGLAND

I've been beyond the borders of the USA.

Why did I get an email from this contest when I never entered, applied, wrote to, or anything.

I just got a winners list emailed to me. How do they even know who I am or my email address?

Magic, perhaps?

evie

it's all good

Jack O'Neal went up the hill to visit Palin's daughter. His pants were down when his body was found in Alaska's frigid waters.

A palin fan huh?

You spend that much time reading toilet material dude?

James

Would you think it was crass if it was written by Woody Allen?

the book is on sale for 4.99 that ought to tell you something.

James there's a lot of stuff happening on this board lately, a lot of fighting, I just thought I'd lighten it up a little. Wait a minute I don't have to justify myself to you or anyone else. Simply put writer write no mater what. Here's one for David Letterman.

Letterman, Letterman don't you see, if you didn't have power you'd get no nookie.

famous people and their kids get hammered. Ozzie Osbourne kids, M. Jackson's kids, Bush's kids its the nature of the beast.

evie

Martin, James are you two always so uptight and insane?

Oh loosen up your girdles, go rag about a contest or your spittle cup not being emptied.

As for you Thomas Jr, Letterman is about as handsome as a beaver on steroids. Lame is good.

Tom, I don't know what happened, a yelling match started about contests which was kind of stupid because this is a contest web site. If one is disillusioned about contests, reviewers and the like then just don't use them. If you get burned enough times you'll figure it out.

There's a massive amount of egos among writers, actors singers, politicians, etc. so have your say. Because I most certainly will have mine. I've paid to be here.

evie

it's all good

Thomas, Thomas, Thomas Jr. go to the library and look at what you cannot have, play it safe and never take any chances, dude. Safe is not good, stunts your growth and your writing.

I like to test drive my comments, it sure sparked, flared, inflamed the two. Oh the indignity of it all.

Do they really care probably not. There are no ethics in writing cause most of it is not true anyway.

Palin's mistake making her daughter marry some guy that she does not love and he doesn't love her, the baby was the cause of the marriage. It will not last.

evie

I wrote what I wanted so what's the problem. Run it up the flag and see who salutes it.

Oh so is that why the boy is out on the talk show circuit trashing ms palin.

Just saw on news ticker that her book is not quite accurate. Hmmmm. I guess if you finish writing a book before the deadline, you might miss some things.

During the campaign convention stops did anyone ever see that baby move, cry or get loud while kid was being handed off to other family members. I don't know any baby that would be that still and that quiet with all that loud commotion going on. Was probably a doll cause you never saw it's face.

Oh well.

James,

I know that was palin's baby they had not announced the daughter preg. until later.

Palin's officially a writer now ain't she. she wrote a book and who knows what else is coming. Just something to wonder about. Wait this started over a little ditty then went into evie be damned for writing it, to palin's daughters baby daddy to who knows what and who cares. just talking shit, okay.

Did daughter ever have baby?

James is in her home state so he know's the who what where and hows. What's shaking in Alaska besides the palin family cause I hear it's the parents of s. palin that have the power and money.

evie

I love you too guys. the object got your attention, which is what writing is all about, ain't it. Sex sell I'm told. dirty or not

Harvey spray away, dude

evie

it's all good

I'm not understanding what the hubbub is about.

Palin's coming to Plano for a book signing Dec. 4th. Should I go? Naw might get arrested for not buying book.

it's strange how only one woman commented all the rest are men. Hmmm protecting palin's honor are you now? Such gentlemen. writing is writing is writing. Harvey wants to give me a golden shower in his mind. hmmmm i'm not into the R kelly syndrome.

what a world

evie

obviously you keep coming back out of boredom dude. You're taking a break from your project to make comments about something so nonsensical. It's all nonsense, but you seem to be enjoying this little break. Am I reading things wrong?

An oasis of pooh.

evie

once you go whack you keep coming back

at least I know I'm a fool and foolish.

what's your excuse dude?

besides I used to be a comic so say what you will I can handle it.

posted, toasted while roasted. hugs and kisses

evie

it's all good

kudos

Hey Connie

Question?

why would you put butt naked pictures of your kids on a international web site. You don't fear the nasty men getting your babies? Brain injury or no that ain't right.

I bet the Native American that your people stole their land and murdered them then confined them to reservations wished ya'll went back to Europe. Ya know you look like you got some other races in you sweetie. what's with the hooded figures, klansmen, maybe the new farmers in the hood look? lol

Why blame Pres Obama for the state of things when all this stuff took Pres Bush eight years too do. After all sweetie he's only been in office 11 months. It's gonna take longer than that to fix this problem.

Oh and as far as blacks having too many babies, yeah that might be sorta true but white women abort their babies that could be why your numbers are dwindling. It is a fact that there are more whites on welfare than blacks. The media only shows what they want you to see, sweetie.

Poor thing, Brain injury or no, you got issues that don't have nothing to do with what your films are telling. Maybe an exorcism is due for you. I'm just saying you need help sorting out what you're really angry about. Could it be 'lack of nookie?'

I could go on about the injustice but you wouldn't hear it. The movie Blind side, another white woman saves the darkie black man movie. didn't Goldie Hawn and jennifer Garner make movies like this already? oh well.

Connie seek the help you need sweetie, this is from a black woman who ain't driving a fancy hummer. Go get laid for me, sweetie

The fact that you say 'don't be mad at you' get real. kiss the blarney stone girlfriend.

evie

its all good

hmmmmm

Ms Bobbette why don't you ever revue any of the black films by tyler perry, Diary of ..., I could do bad...., and the rest or that one The statue of... Spike Lee's movie about Black soldiers in Italy which Mr. Eastwood claimed there wasn't any black soldiers in Italy during world war two?

The nelson mandela movie Inviticus or what ever. Once again the black woman is left out the mix. Nelson would have been lost in the mix if it wasn't for his wife Winnie! She's the one that kept the cause in front of the cameras when she was arrested for no reason continuously, her and her kids, her house was raided by the white south africans continuously, she was jailed continuously, yet there is no mention of her efforts. The fact that when he got out she was kicked to the curb. She held the hands of the freedom fighters, Nelson's ass was in prison sleeping on a stone pillow. Yeah I said it.

Blindside makes it seem that the black woman ain't taking care of her own. And the f'ing movie called Precious what a slap in the puss for black women.

For the first time in US history a black woman is in the white house who's not scrubbing the toilets, mopping the floor, washing the linens, cooking the food, and what movie comes out Precious about some gorilla looking girl, who wishes she was white. Give it a rest already.

There are at least three black female astronauts, why not show the struggles they had to even get in the training classes, why not promote the black women who made something of themselves. I could just slap the sh-t out of ms Oprah, and that cross dressing tyler perry for promoting that sh-t Precious. This film should have stayed in the book 'Push'

Why keep disrespecting the black woman in movies while promoting the white woman's agenda? Yeah I said it. Like a black woman never helped a white child. The bee story thing. Give it a rest already.

This is the reason I do not go to the movie any more, there's nothing for me to see. That's why I wrote UNFINISHED LOVE that deals with the past struggle of the black woman and the fact that we are still struggling to be loved and accepted.

Case in point Jessica Lynch and Shoshanna Johnson, the two females captured in the latest Iraq conflict. Jessica gets a movie, Shoshanna gets less compensation from the military for being dragged around Iraq with two shot up ankles while Jessica gets to lay in a hospital bed chillin. Jessica gets remembered on NBC's GMA for memorable events over the past ten years and Shoshanna doesn't even get mentioned. I think Shoshanna's story would have been a better movie, more action, more drama, more heart felt seeing as Jessica admited that she never fired her rifle. Shoshanna was too shy to step up to the plate.

Okay I'm done, I've spoken my piece as usual and forever for the plight of the black woman in american movies.

evie

its all good sometimes for somebody

I too had an affair with Tiger's Wood. It happened in the South Pole during the Ice Bowl Golf Tour. He couldn't see his white balls in the snow so I offered my t's and a's to help him see his balls. He gingerly placed his balls on my t's and a's and with his dymamic, rhythmic stroke, he swung his shaft and all marveled at his hole in one. My fifteen sexonds of fame.

Hey I figured I might as well get in on the action, see if I could get paid off too How ridiculous huh. Just keeping everyone abreast of news events, LOL, LMAO, GNR and all the rest.

but you looked didn't you. lol

Martin,

I think I deserve better than the same ole same ole car wreck.

Make mine a Tsunami.

evie

its all good

My girlfriend netflix Public Enemy.

Why were the scenes so dark, shadows on peoples faces continuously, mumbling, not much action, more like a docudrama. Christian and Johnny looked almost alike, the bad woman looked like all the other woman, like the jail keeper, the G-men secretary, it was hard to keep them apart.

also saw some movie with Collin Farell named Shot-em up or something. there's one butt naked do the do scene where the woman is on top getting busy, the bad guys come in, Collin starts shooting everyone with the chick still humping away, he humps her on the wall while shooting his gun, (the metal gun), rolls on the floor while humping shooting his gun, believe it or not he's actually hitting the bad guys, and the chick is cumming. Oh I forgot there's this baby he's protecting so the bad guys don't kill it. What a stupid flick truly only a young boy or man would like such a movie. The whole movie is shooting and killing and humping and save the baby.

I have no idea how it ended I left to go have a cigarette.

Now do you think I would pay 8-9 bucks to see this at the show?

Oh and Avatar got good rating on the Special Effects but the story they say is weak at best. Oh well

evie

what's up with that?

Question?

When a producer looks on inktip for a specific genre, thriller, pushes the thriller button, a whole lot of thriller screenplays pop-up, they scroll down, scroll through all the log lines for thrillers, of course your's is among the many thrillers, does this count as someone viewing your log line?

Is this how the process works?

Just wondering.

evie

Ah alas martin b. who actually cares. I have a big gut too. besides she started it. All politicians are liars, so what.

I just added my two cents just to make conversation. what's your story martin? You're strange, why comment if you feel so agitated. Long live eminem.

Connie needs help, I think she said she's dead, then how is she typing, in all caps ta boot.

this thread is fun, I think, as I wistfully, write wobbly words with wierd wanderings wholly without well wishes wasting wanton wreckless wonderment. (get my drift son?) In other words it means absolutely nothing. so get a gripe, dude.

evie

its all good

martin

two cent hike due to economic crisis. you're so cute. sounds like you have nothing better to do than rag about this thread. merry christmas and a happy new year dude.

evie

hey connie get off the crystal meth and move on with your life, little girl

it's all good

FLESH GORDON old light porn flick - comedy

the only scenes I remember were hysterical.

Trying to start up the space craft to lift off. They had to pork rapidly to get the space ship off the ground. lol

the best line.

Emperor Ming comes into the large barracks, barks out fiendish orders to his minions.

His minions, in their uniforms and helmets rush to him and bow.

They salute and confirm Emperor Ming's orders by placing their fists on their foreheads with their middle finger extended, bow and shout their praises to Emperor Ming,

YES, YOUR ASSHOLINESS!!

I never forgot that line. A classic line if I ever heard one.

evie

cherry lithmus and a hairy chewed ear. lol

really though same to all

evie

you didn't have to mention my name mike, gee whis

mike,

whiz in uk same as whiz here I imagine (peeing?)

Okay let me try to translate.

Blimey Bloke, you didn't have to use my name, bloody hell.

Is that more like it.

evie

it is all good and then some

Paul,

I guess we're the only sick folks who saw that movie OR the only one's who'll admit it. lol

evie

In your action lines do you have to keep mentioning the character by name or can you use he, or she?

Thaddeus takes Mirian by the arm, stands her up.

Mirian - I'll scream if you don't let me go. I'm not going back in there.

He escorts her towards the door.

Thaddeus - This is one of the best restaurants in town.

She pulls her arm loose.

Mirian - I don't care, I'm not going back in there I said.

what say you?

oh and another thing.

If you enter part one of a script in a contest, should you or can you enter part two of said script in same contest? In other words can you enter two scripts with the same name and same characters in one contest? Part one, part two?

what it be.

evie

its all good me's thinketh

okay two for and one against pronouns. It just seems tiresome to keep repeating the characters name in ever action line if they're the only two people in the scene.

If entering sequel would certainly have to establish a opening with the ending of first script, probably.

thanks

evie

If registered with WGA can you just change the name of your screenplay without any hassel?

Not copyrighted just WGA.

I've noticed that some of the Pro listings have changed the names of screenplay but the logline is the same.

What say you?

evie

thanks a bunch guys.

evie

Kudos Janet!

Former VP Dick Cheney has had five heart attacks. Who pays his health care bill?

He gets defib paddles, I get jumper cables. He gets heart monitor, I get TV with no digital converter box. He gets CPR/OXYGEN, I get toilet bowl plunger and garden hose.

Dick, if you can't stand the heat, get out of the jacuzzi.

Health Care? What say you Washington DC?

evie

Irin and James

your no fun. It was all about the comparisons. No politics intended. If you had sense of humor you would have thought of funny response. It was all about the visuals.

Besides Cheny is a clone. After 9/11 he disappeared for over a year with no word of him or any pictures. Ya see he died and they cloned him. That's why he shot that dude on the hunting trip, the clone didn't know any better. And he's a good argument for not cloning because you will have the same diseases that your original had.

It's in the jeans.

thanks Ron for getting it. I can count on you every time.

evie

you'se guys crack me up. all this fuss over nothing. A writer is suppose to write am I correct. write about anything. ie, zombieland the movie, American pie. if they can write about dead people eating live people and white teens porking pies and peanut butter sandwiches, so why not political humor.

I'm not pissed, you guys are but I'm not. Every now and then I say something off the wall, you should know that by now about me. So with that said, say what you will.

the joke about health care is that the poor will get the doctors that got F's and D's in medical school.

so scold away, i don't mind. I appreciate the help when I ask a serious question about writing. However I don't have one right now so I say foolish things. And that's the truth. What I don't get is all the hub bub.

Write on brother, write on!

evie humor is the best medicine for anything. You all are so cute when you get angry over nothing.

I just spoke with a production company camera man new to Dallas with a producer from LA at the Dallas Producers Association mixer.

I asked the question, how do you find out how much it would cost to make your screenplay so you know how much money to asks the ANGELS for.

He said, a lot of people think the production company pays to make your screenplay, they don't they only film it.

I said, so how do you know? How much is it to have production company look your work over and give you an estimate on special effects and so on.

He didn't know but you do have to pay for estimate.

Oh.

I did the same with the booklet I wrote, took it to a publishing company. I almost got myself into a whole lot of trouble. $6,000 worth of trouble for 1000 copies.

The person who prints the book asked me to leave the booklet so her editor, proofreader, and art department could look it over, give me ideas on how to make it longer, see a book is 100 pages my booklet is only 33 pages not including cover, foreword, dedication page, so on and so on. She wanted me to leave it with her.

I said no I'll take it with me. She said, email a copy to her. I claimed I wanted to shop around.

If I would have left that booklet or emailed it, they would have charged me to do all of that work, which she never, ever mentioned the charge for all of this. What would have happened is that the printer would keep my work until I could come up with the money to pay for all that work. Golly Gee.

Hmmm.

evie

what a world

Well, that certainly sounds like an enormous task.

Thanks for the input. I would definately start with a short.

depending on the actors it sounds like the bigger the star the more you pay.

the grips, the editors, the sound people, production people, the caterers, the drivers, camera equipment, payroll people, etc... Man you better have one hell of a script but seeing whats out there now I have to wonder who's making these decisions.

for my screenplay, I don't believe I need a big time actor or actress the story will carry itself, plus I want it to go to the MOW not movie theater. Wonder if that makes a big difference.

thanks

evie

what a world

Happy Mothers Day to Ladies that are Mothers

by short, you mean, fifteen minutes or half an hour?

I have in mind a 2 person script. Taking place in two locations, first one on a porch swing at a party, the second on the side of a rocky cliff. My problem would be the rocky cliff, not many of those here in Texas. I considered doing it as a stage play, but the cliff visual wouldn't work.

It would certainly be funny, but not long enough for stage play.

thanks ya'll

evie

what a world

Is it necessary to show why the bad guy is a bad guy?

For instance, do you need to show his childhood, ya know everything's blamed on your childhood. How he was treated by parents, what the town thinks of him, why he beats his own kids.

Do you want the audience to feel a little sorry for him OR do you want him to be a STONE COLD BASTARD without knowing why he's a STONE COLD BASTARD.

Ya know that mystery thing.

evie

oh the horror of it all

ok sounds fair for super hero's and lunatic and space jockey.

But story takes place in small town. I didn't go back to childhood but a glimpse of maw and paw's hateful relationship in present only because i was told bad guy just seemed like the town bully which I took to mean there was no reason for him to abuse his son and woman so violently, murder his drug customers, kidnap and attempt to murder the doctor that's trying to help them. So there must be some reason other than him sampling his products.

evie

what it be

Simply put,

IT'S NOT WHAT YOU KNOW, IT'S WHO YOU KNOW!!!

NETWORK, NETWORK, NETWORK.

evie

that's the way of the world, dear