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haha...that was funny with the difficult story.

Hey, you lucky Americans. You have it good down there with all those contests. When I try to enter your contests I get hit big in the wallet with the exchange rate. My entry becomes close to 1.5 times more to pay. Look it, my idea is create a canam dollar like the euro dollar. I think is only fair that teh U.S. should become part of Canada...haha...there is an idea for a script...take it some one

"Should be what the keyboard said to the writer."

"Can we go back to the chatroom."

Hello, screenplay writers. I am sending a script to Zerogravity. Anyone have any info on them. Thanks

Your right about the eh alphabet I can't even spell teh (the) right in my message. You writers should write a short script and try to produce and direct it. I have done 3 short films to date. My first has been shown in Canada, U.S., and Europe. Actually, if I can I am hoping to do my own low-budget feature from my writing. Not easy people but stick to your guns.

FADE IN: Can you put that in script form next time. It be easier for me visualize all that emotion. I might use some of those lines in my next script. Thanks

You're never too young or to old to write a screenplay, go for it. We all have different point of views sometimes.

wrting or shooting your script. I kind of collabiration are you looking for

Oh, those Canadian prizes get me excited. I just can't wait to open my new box of crayons.

Yes, if you make it big can I possibly ask for 10 % of your earnings for offering words of encouragement. Good Luck. Stick to your guns even though you might shoot yourself in the foot occassionally.

Actually last year I was in a writing for series television workshop for 2 weeks, I wrote a spec script for the 'Associates' a lawyer show up here in Canada. Don't really watch it, but my script was around 60 pages long. Writing for TV is very challenging because of all charcters involved. Usually a TV series has around 4 to 5 writers with 1 or 2 head writers taking the clam for credits. Good luck on your proposal, if you want get back to me. Up here in Canada there is TV company looking for new proposals and they have funding available.

good luck

If you have footage, get it out to the tabloids they are always looking for a good story, just make sure you try more than one tabloid, get some prices. Let the legend of Bigfoot live on.

Try this format: 1. Introduction 2. Middle 3. Conclusion

It's probably no different that a script.

1>Begin with the five W's and build a story around it. 2> interviews (asking questions; number your questions) with people shots, 3-4 stories with in 3>How do you want to end it.

something like that.

M to M. Hey M, can you get me job where you are at as a writer...haha

Marcel

My idea was submit a script called invisible people. You don't need to hire actors. Saves on production costs. Not to sure if I need resume for that.

Hey D.G. sending a Canadian Cruise Missle your way and you can keep our Prime Minister that comes it with. Should be there by next week. Have to load it on the truck and get it over there. When it explodes you get back bacon grease all over you. It's the latest Canadian technology... haha...have a good one.

First Steve. Telefilm.gc.ca has a screenwriting program but you need some filmmaking credit to apply for it. Read below, this is for you Steve and the other writers. This is what I have done to date. I have written some short scripts and went on to produce, direct, and act with these scripts. It has given me great experience because of desire. I have no film school qualifications.

My first film was done with a 8mm home camcorder. I used 2 wind up toys and made background scenes with a scrap book and crayons. This short film that is just over three minutes has done me well. I have distributor for it and it has been seen nationally and internationally. It has gotten me an award and it gave me the chance to move onto making 2 other short films making use of actors and production crew(got some funding).

See, once you have your short film done you can enter into contests. But read books and that stuff. Do storyboards, these are very crucial in filmmaking.

I've been shooting a film over the past two months making use of my of own wallet. It is taking longer than I expected but I have to work around my crew and casts schedule. I hoping this film I am shooting will be the breaking point so that I can move on to doing my own feature. Check out my website to see what I have done www.wordsallowmotion.com ,it's not easy but be persistent and eventually some of us will get that big break.

Writers, it takes vision and heart. Maybe do that short first or attend some film festivals near your neigbor hood and see what is out there.

As for getting actors put an ad in the paper, some will work for free just to gain experience or talk to local agent. Just don't go overboard on your script.

I am paying my actors $15/hr. Not that I can afford it, but I think it is fair after I have moved along this far.

FADE OUT:

Vouchsafe:

a pocket where a man can put his wallet in his boxer shorts.

The 'eff' word is a no I would say but can be used, make use of the 'ess' word maybe once or twice instead. For the 'n' work, I have no idea. In black films it's seems it's a constant main stay. If another color wrote the word people would be up in arms. Go figure.

okay, i am there to check

I have digiscript, haven't really used it yet, it was cheap, got it off the net for around 30 bucks. It looks okay, will try a short script with it. I think digiscript has its own site.

okay, Steve, I am going to send you some info, you might know of it, sounds like you've been doing your research. CTV is looking for pitches for TV and is offering a fellowship. Sending what I have to your email. Don't be confused by my last name. My real one is this one.

My be worth a look people into that website that person mentioned below.

what did you lose, eh.

guess i better become a memeber of this secret sect called Zoetrope, are there any rituals that i might have to got through. If any rituals have to do with running naked in a gauntlet of spinsters i am outta there.

guess i better become a memeber of this secret sect called Zoetrope, are there any rituals that i might have to go through. If any rituals have to do with running naked in a gauntlet of spinsters i am outta there.

hmmmm..how did you get responses so quickly for your script? paaaaaaleeeeeeeassssseeeee tell me...haha

Those weren't bigfoots prints in the forest, they were my nephews, he has size 15 feet and he is as frigging big as him. The only difference between the two is that my nephew waxes.

Mr. Godly, I'd be interested in your query, but what is the significance of having our resumes? Are your trying to come up with a comedy story of a man who takes someones resume and adapts his life after it?(There's and idea for one you writer's to jump upon and write a screen play, huh, huh, haha...)

How would this partnership thingy work? Hmmmmm...get back to me.

Thanks

only when he sleeps

okay, I am zoey member, but one problem, I am self taught writer who doesn't read books, let alone other people's screenplays because of ADD. Can someone email me fictional revues for zoey so that send out so that I can get some reviews on my play. Haha...help...4 is too much to read in 40 days for me.

not me, if it's a pay for service I will pass. Hut hut 1 2... go long but don't fade out

Marcel

Yes, I have response from them too. I going to ask them about themselves first. A person can probably use the yellow pages on the net somehow to locate their company. You go first. I mean with the yellow page search

be well

Marcel

okay d.g. time to give that self pep talk and move away from the word game I know you have the potential to do it. haha

gonna have to have a snowball fight at the borders of minnesota and ontario. 1812 revisited.

best

marcel

Good to have you on board, but you're stepping into a hard business. Best you go to www.zoetrope.com and sign up. For the reason of, they are looking for actors in your area I believe. For the movie JEEPERS CREEEPS II. Best hurry. Plus you can get some reviews on your screenplays.

It is good to hear that you are writing. Maybe the bigfoot was an omen. I can see how things can get distracting. Time for us to move on and help each other once more. But still have some light-hearted things to say.

Here is for something for you to look at. It won't hurt to try Americans. But if you pitch and get lucky, all that you offer has to done in Canada. Would you be willing to make the move?

Here is for something for you to look at. It won't hurt to try Americans. But if you pitch and get lucky, all that you offer has to done in Canada. Would you be willing to make the move?

www.ctv.ca/benefits

M to M. I will glady review your play for 125 American dollars. Plus I will be real nice with the review. Actually give me your script name on ZOEY, I might take a gander over it.

I take bribes :)

I don't think one will buy your ideas anyways. Not to be a prune. Best write them down and work on them yourself or find another writer that might help you.

marcel

Try shopping it around to HBO as a MOW (movie of the week). Must be other places you can try or get hold of an agent. Best not to do things yourself. It will burn you out.

hmmmm...agent you say...

I have sent out my play a few times but have not gotten any responses back. I think once they start reading it, it spooks them and makes them uncomfortable and they ditch it for much lighter reading.

could you explain this in simpler terms for me. I am not quite up to par on what you are saying. I can use writer's block as an excuse.

(it was a dark stormy day)

Well, according to zoetrope.com, I have 21 people reading my play, and yet to have a review. This was 2 weeks ago. Any one have info how long does it take for a review.

I read 4 plays in 4 days to qualify for a review. Easier than I thought. Some good stuff on there, but you have to write up a 200 word review...tough to do sometimes.

Yea, Steve, WTN sent me a release form for my idea I submitted to them, back me up with your pen if they steal my idea...haha

Don't you never never ever call me a woman. Never...haha...okay joking...had to break up the rhythm a bit.

mf

reciporcals might lead me to an early death.

lend me your "Zoey" names so when I go back to read other peoples scripts I choose the moviebyte crowd first.

(better to pass a car than pass gas on a highway)

Of course, it could be terrible writing job. My play is a Western and my antagonist is a white priest who likes to kill colored people by beating them to death with Smooth Rocks. Leading to the title called "Smooth Rocks."

What I am trying to do, also, is raise some funding from goverment (canadian)sources so that I can hopefully shoot my own film from another script I wrote. Low-budget of course.

But in a previous statement. I just might want to read your play on the Zoey website if you are there. Or if you want, email it to me I and will read it, critique with my own wisdom, and then delete for I know the play is not mine.

mf. happy easter is next I guess

Dee Gee, I'll be dodging your knuckles and bats with my migthy pen and a nice set of 9mm bullets if my pen goes empty.

When you mention "AZ" you loose me there. I will need more description on those two letters.

I have given reviews in flash fiction and screenplay, and so far from some people have responded back saying that my comments have helped them. Guess I'm not that northern "nimconpoop" you're looking for. But I think the word makes for a great comedy title.

So I can't be a nimconpoop, maybe in time I can become a northern chithead. hahaha...

Dee Gee, mee goee...bee goodee

Dear Shelly,

Please review my covering letter as I write it right now, right here. The negativity won't hurt me, DG's punches and bat thumps might.

I am open to critical critique because it really makes you ponder on your play to find the mistakes that might be there and to add or delete some scenes. Of course there could be nothing wrong. I wouldn't loose any sleep over a critique.

If a person goes overboard with a review then a person gets to hyped and they possibly begin to think that my play should be selling this very year.

Besides, I do have the extra absorbent paper towels sitting beside me. I can make double use of them. One time for tears and when they get wet I can wash the floors with them.

I sent Brooklyn and email with logline, took a couple of days to get back to me. Said, my line wouldn't something he might not be interested in.

At least there was a response. That was good enough for me.

Plus, the other messages are building up again, get hold of me in this message box with your scripts when they are ready to read on ZOEY.

thanks

See, I can't stipulate that the figure skaters should deserve the medal because I didn't see their performances. I consider myself to open to good stuff and to judge I shall not be bias.

If unfairity (not to sure is that is a word) is about, start up that complaint. Fortunately the skaters had the media and public to assist them. I am glad they got their medals. I hope things get put to rest now.

Hah, I didn't know AZ was American Zoey. So there, you, you, you, big bad meany guy DG, I'm going to tell my mommie on you. I can see it now, my mommie chasing you down the street with broom in hand.

take care.

haha...what else could I say...

mf

I have this kind of experience, since I have done two short films, making use of actors/actresses. I am doing a shooting a film right now and I am using actor/actresses from a agent. This is not big money stuff either. What you can do is get hold of agent and go look over the pictures they have of their people. That is if you are going to do the film yourself.

If you are selling you play, then the company will probably go look for their own people to play the roles.

marcel

I have this kind of experience, since I have done two short films, making use of actors/actresses. I am doing a shooting a film right now and I am using actor/actresses from a agent. This is not big money stuff either. What you can do is get hold of agent and go look over the pictures they have of their people. That is if you are going to do the film yourself.

If you are selling you play, then the company will probably go look for their own people to play the roles.

marcel

I have this kind of experience, since I have done two short films, making use of actors/actresses. I am doing a shooting a film right now and I am using actor/actresses from a agent. This is not big money stuff either. What you can do is get hold of agent and go look over the pictures they have of their people. That is if you are going to do the film yourself.

If you are selling your play, then the company will probably go look for their own people to play the roles.

marcel

whoops...sorry about the 3peat. Was trying to catch the error of "you to your"

mf

It has been annouced by secret sources the unknown french pair of skaters have attained a gold medal already. News on the internet starting after the Winter Olympics of 2002.

Gang...sign up your script names on here so that I can read some of your scripts on Zoey. Not to sure I can read all.

I have yours, Shelly.

marcel

Not to be a cuss, but any restaurant that has a waiter or waitress might be good place to hang, since it sounds like that's what most of them do for work until they get discovered.

You're in a tough market just as we are, but this writer has had the chance to do some short films to gain experience. Unfortunately I am based out of Canada, and if by chance I get to make a feature I might have to dwell on Canadain talent first.

Wish you the best of luck.

I have never done a treatment either, but some places want one. I like to go with what I have in my head at the time this way I can slip in new characters as I write.

I would say treatments are a waste of time but sounds like I might have to learn how to write one. Yuck

mf

okay, will do.

eme: marcelwood@hotmail.com when its ready to read. (send no spam, pa leeze)

marcel

Okay, I give in. Next time I will try an outline. A treatment? Heard those things can reach up to 60 pages. Woof.

I did I tell you guys are like family to me. The reason for this saying, is, I need to borrow some money. I know you all have kind hearts and you wouldn't the black sheep of the group falter. Would you?

marcel

fictional characters, real story. Lots of divorces out there. By rights, go ahead and write.

marcel

Oka, Marcel, here. Of course I have an idea of a television drama program. For you that are thinking about writing for t.v. and other stuff.

This site might be worth look peering into to get some insight.

Marcel

rights, rights, forget about the rights,how about some lefts, hooks, and jabs.

I think Moviebytes should have a live chatroom, How do get them to this?

Gang, I got this info for Kingmanfilms off the United Kingdom website on the message board I put on.

It is a good site, I even pitched one of my films to Welsh Company. Have to wait on a response now.

There is a lot of info on there for many things, on the UK site.

good luck, maybe you might get discovered or get that finicial break.

No...

Good and happy for them, and not suspect on the penalities. I wish I was there when they drinking the champagne in their dressing room. I need to go on a good bender with some women.

even in gold and silver, not bad.

Take out the fancy dance program in skating and put in Barrel Jumping or something. Sure the girls look great and delicious and pretty and wow...never mind...keep the dance

I here Ashley has pics of Randy and is going to publish them on the net to get some extra cash to offset her writing.

haha...kidding

not saying the best, but doesn't hurt to look or try I say.

marcel

okay. But be open minded to criticism. I can be tough and I can be fair, but it's what I expect from other people if they read my play.

thanks

I have no reason for revenge, I liked Shelly's idea. If she wants, she can post her view point of my screenplay on Zoey. I have no qualms about it. Since I really never read it. I expect the good with the bad.

The one review I got wasn't great but I didn't let it bother me. I thanked the person and then went back and did some touching up.

Since I do have some experience in making film as a producer and director. With a larger project as a feature I might find the script of Shelly's a little hard to shoot just because of some of the wording.

She has a great feel for writing and dialogue, it's just if I where shooting the film I might find I might have a few delays in picking up some words and establishing scenes for shooting because I would have to make use of references as television and novel mediums. This would be time consuming on set if I had to locate certain television shows and written novels to see what is represented by the writing.

I am not saying the script wouldn't be shootable. I thought the writing had a combination of screenplay and visions from novels and television incorportated into.

If the reveiw was that bad then the people who run Zoey wouldn't of posted.

I have no bridges to burn. And I am not getting into internal feuds :-)

marcel

Whoops. Free templates

www.writing.org.uk

marcel

I have been invited to a few film festivals because of my short films I have made. Hopefully with luck the next film festivals will be for feature films. And if by chance if I do well, I might come back to Moviebytes looking for feature scripts to purchase. Low-budget of course (for now).

Best to you all

Marcel

Okay, I might of been wrong. I did watch a program on tv Friday and the credits said that it was based around a true person. So, possibly you, you would have to get an agreement signed, with or without money involved.

As I have done in my las two films. I have phrased the words "the characters in this film are fictional any represention to characters of this sort whether living or dead has been purely coincidental."

Guess I better watch my butt next time.

hmmm...looks like I will be returning to see what is up.

This is making for a great screenplay idea, should call it the "Judges." Make is sexy, underhanded, dirty, who knows what else. Shake up the world with a fictional play about judges, athletes, and political riff raff. Wouldn't the Olympic people hate that if movie came out about something like this.

No need to change my name.

There was a part in your screenplay towards the end: Your night time chase--The goodguys were being pursued by a one bad guy, both were in vehicles. Since the badguy was doing the shooting from behind, I was wondering how he could shoot out the front windsheild? Plus I would find it hard to shoot a rifle while driving. A rifle is a hard thing to hold with one arm at anytime. Let alone trying to drive at the same time and shoot it. I think a hand pistol would be more appropiate.

Write your screenplay into a novel format, you have the right word use and it will make a good read.

I can imagine your first draft had its share of spelling mistakes. That is why we get other people to assist in moving them along.

Plus we had an agreement of posting our critiques on Zoey. I still await your posting of mine. Plus, if it was bad, I wouldn't go out and making up fictious stories about you or saying bad things.

best to you :)

So what is your manner of approaching these people on these websites you have stated.

Do you give them a query letter with a logline? Do you send a synopsis?

Looking for some assistance from the moviebytes crowd. :)

marcel

hmmm...and you made contact from this website. I have looked at it and seen fax numbers and phone numbers, how did you query to them with your idea?

mf

A screenwriter plus a historian. Lots of surprises from DG.

I believe writing is a all day process that can happen at any given moment once you are inspired. Plus the lady you are talking about might have that success where she can write for a living, and do it in the morning.

Hope your class goes well your teaching. I just taught a short film class over the weekend, went in cold turkey, now that was tough to do, but I survived. That little extra of cash always comes in handy.

Marcel

If I hit 90 I am feeling pretty happy. People out there have many views on how a long a play should be. I think 90 is a good goal and if you can add more pages then the better.

mf

might be worth a look into, that is if you all tried this site.

best

marcel

sent but refused

marcel

I think anyone can start a contest. I think some of the people start their own contests so that they can start financing their films or what ever they are trying to do.

With the rates they charge their costs can go towards development and even purchasing equipment. They probably don't even have to read all the plays. Just read few pages and few onto the next one. It can be an 'eenie meenie moe' for choice.

Don't think it can happen. "Watch this."

Let's say I wanted a start a screen writing competition for short scripts. So I say 25 dollar entry fee. No plays over 20 pages. Lets say 150 people apply.

150*25=$3750

winner gets 750 bucks second gets 250 bucks third gets 100 bucks website 50 bucks

total= 1050 dollars

so 3750-1050=2600

I have 2600 dollars left and I put towards my short film. Lets say I have a budget of 4000 dollars. Of course I am using a digital camera or I think I might need to buy one that is around 5000 dollars, never mind about the short film.

And why can't I make use of a State or town name.

Hey, this screenplay will be shopped around to producers and directors. But I won't try too hard to find them. I might look on the internet or phone and make a couple of calls to see if anyone is interested. If they say, no. Well at least I tried.

Darn, forget the film and camera I need to make a house payment.

I guess what I am writing is just fiction anyways.

Marcel

of course I went an entered a competition yesterday with 'aTalentscout.' Went in with a television drama idea.

Maybe I be a sucker...haha...but I think this one is a good one to approach

Extended deadline...

"We haven't received enough money yet so come one get your play in for that once in life opportunity."

I think if I see a line like that on here from one of those competitions I think I will be emailing them that message.

Marcel

I might be thinking if you sell your play it might be a one set buy out package.

Possibly you can sign to get 1-2% profit.

mf

I think I might have to agree with what that person said above me. At least they have a sight where you can submit your play.

I think once they read a few pages of your script they can tell if they want it or not.

mf

I might of created a monster here but I do think there are sites on here that are viable and probably can move a person along.

I just sent out an outline for TV series competition. "aTalentscout." Going over there website it looks pretty good. I still have to take chances too.

marcel

congrats to all

mf

Well, you know what, since I think there are only a few of us signed on here and there seems to be thousands of want to be screenwriters.

I think we all should start our own contests. Heck, I have experience in making film. I could go for short scripts and actually make one if I get enough entries.

I guess my previous comments are coming back as a good vision.

The one contest had almost 800 scripts. Wow. That's some pretty serious cash upfront. No wonder these contests are popping up right and left.

I'm thinking it over and so should you. I bet some previous members have started their own contests on here.

mf

I think we write to put a little of ourselves into our screenplays whether true of fictional. We live out some of our characterizations or else we wouldn't be able to complete that screenplay, let alone start it. (exception on the line: it was a dark and stormy night)

With every screenplay we write there is always some kind of piece of us that is in it and will be left with it if it ever makes it to the screen.

mf

nopers...can't help you.

better find yourself a persnal fitness trainer online and get into screenwriter shape.

mf

I might be needing some 3year olds to help me with my writing, which mac's where they at.

mf

ya, so I get this idea to write a screenplay about screenwriter's trying to do out each other and eventually it leads to murder.

I am calling the play

"Moviebytes Moviebytten"

can I get a release form to use your names...haha

take care, and be good, it can be tough and ugly sometimes.

Marcel

horror stuff gives me the willies and I can't sleep at night. But hopefully I will see it on film.

congrats on your book

marcel

Books are in the store on filming and you can get good free information off of the internet. I've seen a couple of feature films done in digital with budgets of 20'000. You have to attend film festivals and see what is up. You'd be surprised with the writing, alot of it is better than main stream Hollywood. A lot of writers are beginning to shoot their own scripts.

If you have the heart it can be done. Get some experience with a short film first. And read and read and try and try. Get digital. All it takes is one good 5000 dollar camera. Of course sacrifice from other sources help too.

marcel

So, I am attending a film festival in my city. I go watch this film called Monsoon Wedding. I stick around because the writer was there of this flick.

I pot a question to her why she wrote it in English and East Indian and she told me that is how they speak on a regular business in India. Of course she has been living in New York for the past 5 years.

She was going to university at the time and her final theisist (however you spelt it) was to write a screenplay. Lo and behold just at the right moment a well know East Indian women director shows up at the University. Bingo bango they chat for a bit in the hallway. Bet that wasn't by fluke that meeting.

She showed the director her first draft and the director liked it and she wanted it to produce it. Within 4 months she had the play written and it was on its way to film.

Lucky break or what, Mosoon Wedding, written by Sabrina Dhawan. I guess no hard life for her anymore. Her connections are established.

anyone wanna buy an autograph...

mf

move to the far artic then, you might live to 175 before you see that final 365'000 sunrise

would like to go but too far to travel. Don't think my dogsled team would like the heat in time.

mf

Are there any other good websites to join that aren't out to take your money?

mf

I think a novel idea is good. If you are going into pre-teen stuff then I think you are stepping into a good market. Write your novels and if you think if it can developed into television then that is another good stepping stone. Sometimes you have to find other ways to break into the market.

half-hour series are good stuff right now for teens because they will always be there. Plus I was down at a conference this past week. There was a lady distributor there and she took on that pre-teen and teen stuff. Of course once it has been produced. She said some of her stuff she keeps on hold for up to 10 years.

The market is there. Just have to find your niche. good luck

mf

Least not to forget, the lady who penned Harry Potter was once a mother with 2 kids and lived on welfare.

marcel

merci

mf

You're right Deb, if you go to Film Festival you will see that almost anyone can do a film, digital has opened many new doors and some writers aren't sitting around to sell their script. They are using Visa's and other cards to go and make their films. It gives them the opportunity to direct also. Writing makes that transistion into directing much easier.

But I say, still shop your scripts around, but be prepared to do a write a low-budget film and do it yourself if you can. With editing you can purchase software anywhere and do your own.

mf

hmm...put that money away for a low-budget film and produce it on your own.

Well at least the devil greeted you as you walked in.

I am wondering how long that marriage will last with lady who penned young Potter. 2 years and the guy leaves a millionaire I bet.

Most indie's want to do there own stuff from there own writing, that is why they make short films to gain experience. Shooting a film is still going to take some time. With digital people are shooting movies with 30 day or less sometimes.

forgot to mention that there are distributors that will handle a person's film. Usually they ask around 20% take.

mf

go find a synopsis on the net that fits your ideal, copy and paste, and change a some words. I think everything has been written about anyway.

marcel

(or else start with: it was a dark, stormy night)

Got this from a Film Paper up here in Canada in the classifieds.

www.bullseyefilms.com: looking for some synopses submissions. Around a month old or so. One page website only.

mf

just give us your theme and most of us will try to help you, I wouldn't worry about any of us trying to take your story.

best to you

marcel

Brooklyn will take your logline pitch and will tell you he is interested in it or not. He'll get back to you within a week or so.

He did for me, but I didn't make his honor roll, doesn't hurt for you to try.

Marcel

I should of said an one page synopsis.

marcel

I am trying that white hosiptal tape on the back of my brads, just sent out a script, hopefully the tape sticks around. Hope they don't want to take apart the script.

marcel

Anyone know of a place to look for interested writing agents? Canada or the States, or all the agents full with talent and are not taking on new peoples even though we been doing this writing for years.

thanks

marcel

Dear Mylo,

I think you should be an actress and a screenwriter. Do you know how to Riverdance also? I think you would make a marvelous performer and would offer much creativity to the world.

Okay, I went overboard. Keep on writing, baby!!

haha

mf

Any one looked in 'writers wanted' lately. Best look if your from LA and this doesn't mean Leduc, Alberta.

Plus I see the company that did Monsters Ball is on the lookout for some scripts.

Writers Wanted best have a looksee in that department.

marcel

A man with special psyhic powers is just about to find out that "All HELL IS ABOUT TO BREAK OUT,' with his unborn child.

marcel

thank you

Not to sure if there is a lot of money at the beginning, you have to establish yourself also. I would let them do it and see what becomes of it. There are many plays out there, even right in your own city. If they to put it on look for some possible gate receipts. Even to get up live is an accomplishment. Not to worry about actors, theater actors are of many. Who knows, maybe someone might see your play and put it to screen.

I have put on my own live play but only a short one and am going to do it again in short but in time I want to make it into a 1 plus and film it and try and put it to a tv performing arts station.

hope this helps a bit.

I'm thinking of putting a BERG or STEIN, on my last name, think that might work in Hollywood. haha

haha...during my last week or so I have written an one hour drama series (58 pages). I find it best sometimes to take you pen and pad and find a coffee shop to write to get you going again. I did this a a bookchain here in Canada. Now, I need a interested party to pick up my drama.

dv to film is suppose to give it that grainy film. I would try dv to 35mm. probably looking at from anywhere to 175-250 dollars per minute for transfer.

your project, your say, don't let him get pushy or get rid of him. He is the producer, if it's your money, then you also become the executive producer.

go go go

this might be a kick-at-the-can, but try NYactors.com or newyorkactors.com, maybe there is such a page and then put up a posting on it.

best of luck

s***, f###, D#&#, p~~~, b##%#^, this is the title of my next film. Wait till you see the logline.

hmmm...an actor, I would be more into a writer/director, and producer/writer. An actor that can write would be great.

Nice thought though you came up with.

oh my gawd, it's Elizabeth Hurley, ahhh!

"digiscript' for me

basically, all of our minds and pens get lulled to nothing sometimes. My tv drama script was the first bit of writing I did in a while.

is it writers block, frustration, emptiness, out of ideas? Hmmm...

I write them but have a hard time editing them. I can read others scripts but am challenged to read mine. But I do try to do my best to go over.

Sometimes there are words missing I thought I wrote in. And sometimes I add an extral letter and overlook it.

(such as: her to here, the is teh, two is to. Dumb mistakes that can kill you)

then there is (they're, there, their: affect and effect: accept and except)

not good for person who doesn't really read any kind of books, but I have managed.

so they're you have it...

:-O

you Califorians have it good, you going surfing and forget to write. Life at a beach. First one in the water gets bitten by a great white bic pen.

you go check, ugh.

great...being persistant has its rewards. We still have to do attian ours. Inspiration.

I live in Canada, any American film I see is considered foreign.

When I attended the film festival here in my city, I saw a few foreign films that were pretty good. Plus we have a couple of theatres in the city that basicially showcases foreign stuff. I'm not talking American this time.

If you want to watch a good Canadian movie you have to make one. Kidding...haha...New Waterford Girl (canadian) is pretty good. 2 yrs old now. Check it out.

try lower case letters. I tried it and got in.

m

nothing is wrong with it, I am part native so I can say that stereotypical word. ugh...haha

(how) kool. I wish I would of looked further into the website. Might be interesting.

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Vancouver is a hot place, you should be able to find something. Yes, I believe you when you say a Canadian film is foreign and American is main stream.

Right now I am trying to pitch a tv drama but it sounds like I might need a interested production company.

Looks like Steve is doing well. That is good.

I think my province is not the best to be in. BC, Ont, and, Que, are the places to be to move ahead further.

best of luck

what do you want, Steve.. mormom, mormom, mormom. hahaha... you got your wifey and kiddies.

I went to Ashley's website, quite a fiesty person. And this close () to being famous. That is close. Plus she does have a good headshot photo.

but back to work, need to refresh my tv outline says a person from a tv station I am pitching my idea to. At least I was given some feedback.

keep on typin' baby, keep on typin'

not mine, might be to freaky. but they did get back to me.

good luck to all

Steve, there is something coming up big in Toronto in mid-may. Something called INNOversity Summit (I think). Best dig it up some how. Call CBC in Toronto and see what they know about it.

with the new editing programs for home, wouldn't these programs be able to manipulate digtal into looking like 35 or 16 mm?

I would look around and see what these new software programs have to offer. It would be much cheaper to go that way then choosing 35mm off the bat.

I wonder if a person were to soak the dv film in some kind of peroxide and then let it dry, I wonder if it would give it a 35mm look?

we might be writers and you say we can make film, yes it's possible, because some of us have done a short or something close to it. Still it's a challenge to set the scenes to the words and got all those shots shot to where you like it, but you also have to take in the audience perspective.

That darn money anyway(s). pulling lint out of pocket again.

I would look to a film co-opertive in your area. You just might be able to find a camera to rent at quarter of the cost.

mf

what do you think other writers, should a person sign up? Is to good to be true.

marcel

Hopefully Anne will come back to defend her sight. I've seen this site somewhere else. I don't think it's new.

mf

woof

A gentleman up here for a television station I am trying to pitch my idea to, told me I should work on my outline(spec script already written). I think I just might have something different. But with the some Native content involved I am not to sure it will sell.

I thought the outline was fine already and explained most of what I wanted from . So I might be needing some help from you people.

Plus, I will pitching this idea to the Canadian Embassy in Germany for something that is happening in Germany. They were looking for 10 companies to fill this gap and only 4 applied. Hopefully they will look at my idea and be interested in it. I think my idea would be good for an European audience. Here is the website (http://www.medienforum.nrw.de). I get the feeling they are looking for completed productions already, but it doesn't hurt to try I say.

This is what I am doing to date. Still many more ideas on the backburner. Just don't know when I will tackle them.

marcel

Since I don't have the expensive software (I have a cheaper version). With the 'CONT'D,' I just use it at the end of the dialouge when it's going over and then I put the Character name back up on the next page. I think this is fine.

Yes, sometimes those stupid action lines do cause a small problem for me. But they can make my scripts, somewhat a page longer or less :) :(

I just sent out an application form for a writing grant of 10'000 for my high-killing destructive character called CAINE (name of the play too). I made a minor mistake with the last one. I left my name on the outline and it wasn't suppose to be on there.

The grant is for to sit and write a treatment. This alone will be challenge. I never have written a treatment. A 5 page outline was hard enough.

thanks for the Sundance info, but basically the Sundance is geared for American Natives. I am a partial one liveing here in Canada, but thanks for the information, I might try them again.

My first short film is being shown at film festival in Montreal, Canada. June 16th. Any going there take it in. I can't afford to make the trip. haha and wawa

Terry

and may the Native spirits be with your mother also.

Time to step away for a bit. Instead of writing try drawing up some pictures from your mind. You probably have the idea so far back in your mind you just don't know that's it there. Grab a pencil and do some doodling and base it around your play.

Draw somebackground scenary, eg. mountians, building, inside buildings, bars, cars, stars, mars, czars, people, animals. and blah blah blah.

for one thing I am not going to check out this site. No female porn person is going to get you into the business we want to be in. Just because they had sex with almost everyone in hollywood doesn't mean they can get you connections.

You won't see in the porn section looking for drama or good writing. The male actors in these films couldn't care less about there female counterparts. There just there for fucking (excuse my language)of young naive girls

of course this is my opinion. I maybe right and maybe wrong :)

I ain't hanging at no bus station, airport, or train station. hahaha...eyuck

Ashley, if we were rich writers we would chip in and buy your a trailer, but with the luck you seem to be having lately our investment in a trailer might get struck by a tornado.

The good thing about the tornado, I guess, if you are washing clothes you wouldn't have to worry about the spin cycle.

(not too late to have kids) Women are having kids in there 40's and 50's now. How old was the Adrienne Barbot (from Maude the t.v. show) when she had her baby. 52 I believe.

Maybe you can write a screenplay about a woman having a baby around those ages.

I don't think Ashley was insulted. Okay, babe :)...hahaha

marcel

Good for you, glad to see you have made it. Looks like your career is set. Look forward to seeing your work on the bigscreen. Keep us updated on your working titles so that we can go watch them.

marcel

not to sure if logline should be mixed with synopsis? Would have to get others responses.

As for a logline, even though it might sound comedic.

logline: women haunted by ass

some books are better than others. some are easier to read and not as clustered. I think once you read the books that you don't have to take a screenwriting class. I did this and found that I knew just as much as the instructor.

Miriam, are you single?

marcel

What you have is good. I recently talked to gentleman up here in Canada about a show I am trying to pitch to TV station and he said I didn't need the character bios, just a good one page outline was sufficient.

But this was his opinion. So I rewrote it but this time I pitched my idea to the head office and not to one of its subisaries (something like that). ( I am not going for spell cheque)

I think many good scripts are passed over in competitions. I think it's a big challenge to read scripts. Who are the people who are judges? What is their experience? It's a tough business for sure, but that shouldn't discourage us from writing and entering. But as new competitions come up like words in a too long of a monologue, how does one tell who is viable.

I believe a query should be submitted to one those get the info shows. Like 48 hours or 60 minutes, since they can afford to the research and get the scoop on the poop, better than us.

marcel :)

sounds all well from what the others have said, not too many changes to be made.

best of luck

marcel

I just attended the Innoversity Creative Summit on Toronto, Canada. www.innoversity.com. (now I am really broke)

I managed to get leave two of feature scripts with one the important people of CBC. I hoping this lady likes my writing and calls for with open arms, saying "come to us Marcel you great person, we want to produce your films." ...hahaha, as if.

I also managed to pass on two of my performing arts plays also. CBC again. They do have different departments.

I am also getting the chance to have my television drama script read, by another lady in another department. I even had the chance to pitch my tv drama to them live. That was tough. I think I need some more experience in that.

I would have to define where I want to take this drama, how far can it go, this is what I asked. I did my best to repond but fell short so I think I am going to have to hook up with other writers in my area and gather ideas and take it from there. The script I wrote I believe has a potential to pushed to a 3 to 5 year drama show if done right.

If not, I think I can convert the script into a two part tv movie or even a feature. I hoping for the best.

best of luck all

marcel

I don't think people buy treatments. They might read them, I might he wrong though. If you treatment was for a novel it might be a different story.

Marcel

I believe any lower expense course could be as good as any high paying course. The people who are teaching these classes have written there screenplays just like the rest of us in moviebytes.

They've read the books and some have come on line to offer their services. If you want the experience, go ahead if you think it's going to help you better. Or look around your area for people offering courses, and always have a few books on hand to use for reference. Even series books of Dummies and Idiots have books out on screenwriting.

it's up to you to cover your dialogue. think about you, think about them, think about her, think about him, think about what's going to happen. Draw some pictures if you have to.

best of luck

marcel

How do you mean by rewrite? Do want some input from other people?

Sorry guys, Miriam is married. lol

sometimes I think I am dyslexic when I write. :)

I hope things go well for you without any twists, maybe we're on a small role here.

Marcel

small role of goodie going on, hope it reaches all. I am having a few of scripts read also by producers, but all within CBC. Our CBC is like your NBC or ABC. no pay cable.

marcel

I attended a film festival here in my city a few months ago. I went to one conference, couldn't stay long, they spoke, get an entertainment lawyer to assist you and no one else.

marcel

hmmm...

I consider myself a lazy writer, I have the ideas on hand but to jump on them is a different story.

You need motivation and some research on your subject might be needed.

I met a lady today with a production company and I pitched my outline for a tv drama. She liked my idea but I needed to take it to another level. Instead of writing a script for a drama show, she said introduce the drama with a two-hour made for tv movie.

I am off to do some research on idea tonight. From there I should be able to develop a story.

What she did tell me was stay away from the stereotypical roles. Bring in something new. hmmm. This I believe to be true, but sometimes we have to recycle stories from a different point of view with hopefully different dialogue.

I guess I will return to writing once more. Thank goodness. I needed some motivation.

a good writer is a writer who writes when needs to and that can be all the time or occasionally.

I write poetry to and had some published. What are your writing goals? What are your messages you want to tell? :)

can cause for a screenplay idea

amen, shalom, Hi-ya, may the force be with you. :)

I thought I would never write a sports play but going to have to now. Not to give too much away I am doing a drama on a female boxer who doesn't really come from a down-an-out life. I need some feed back on the logline. She won't be fighting men just sparring with them as she develops.

logline: the best way to woman's stomach is with a boxing glove.

comments?

marcel

raining cats and dogs, just remember when you step outside make sure not to step into any poodles.

it's probably a varification showing they have received you submission. Why not email them find out more, but don't go in angry.

not bad, I think I can build around that :)

thanks

thanks. I saw girl-fight a couple of years ago, I was not too bad.

I am going to rework the logline like you say.

I've did 25 pages on the script already and have come with a comedy-drama instead. I having the rich against the middle class.

I know as writers, as sit alone we sometimes we blurt out occasionally with laughter and those other emotional things. I am trying to contain my laughter in some parts, how would you people know if it's funny, well, you'll have to take my word on it :)

Hope I can attain those 90 pages at least. I am kind of hoping to take this into a tv series also.

I think I might have an interested producer. I already gave them my first 25 pages, but just as a sample. None more until all is written.

Thanks for the advice, gang.

Screewriting competitions are popping up like a bag of micro wave popcorn.

Anyone on here can start there own. Many people are catching on to this and who know what they do with the money?

When you do a search for screenwriting competitions on the net, moviebytes, is probably one of the sites to look at. I think only a few actually sign up as members.

Need some money, go get a private mailbox, set a date, make a name for your contest, get your webpage and your ready to fly. There so many writers out there and they are willing to spend that money to enter that contest.

I have thought of doing my own. I do actually have a registered business name. Hmmmmmm....

Plus, basically anyone can dish out 500 dollars of there own money to a winner. Some these contests are test runs to see what comes in, financially that is. I could be wrong though.

got it d.g., still working the logline. I can be called mispello, seems I have a habit of doing that :)

thanks all

If you want a film, take all you have written on here, do some copy and pasting to make a script, get some actors to learn the lines and record this as a documentary-drama film and submit to some film festivals.

As bigfoot would say: "hoqarmnugrtapoafpar aeursfghajer narowahf...haha... wppatuva xko raurkpa avu ahpaera tharpjvahtawrawuptuaf... hahahaha."

of course we would need an interperter for it/him/her.

well HI there.

Glad to see you on board, as you can see us writer's have a tendency to stray occasionally on various subjects. This is what you have to watch out for and know when to stop.

Expect not to get along with everyone and keep cool on your emotions and you will be fine. You have to toughed-skinned in here sometimes.

But all in all most things are good. We hope we can be an inspirtation to you so you can, hopefully, become a selling screenwriter.

best of luck.

Marcel

at anytime, any day, anyone can come back as Jesus Christ. I've even thought about it about myself.

What is to stop me from doing it? hmmm...

anyone want the rights on me?

I was writing a script got to around 25 pages and went dead. That was around 3 weeks ago.

guess I better get boosted and get back to writing and get around another 25 pages.

back to boxing again.

shame shame...haha...but that is okay with me.

My first short film is showing at film festival Montreal on june 19. This that blantant or what :)

like what i am seeing

d g what is the web site for writers script work. might have to sign up. I think moviebytes is more for chit chat and feedback.

not saying that it's bad place to come to, but one needs better leads.

best to all

marcel

don't know why I am back here.

heard that the supposedly virgin mary was pregnant at the age 13. What's up with that? gotta be some shame going on there.

-talking tree -whale spits out man -splitting sea -two of every animal on boat -numbered tablet from the sky -man walks across desert

looks of great stories, too much fiction.

whoops: lots not looks

lots of great stories, too much fiction.

as I age I find myself growing more hair in spots I never expected. Hair on head as held out. since I live in north america, maybe I am becoming bigfoot and I don't even know it.

anyways I gotta to the barber for a body haircut. c'ya's

(I wonder what I am goin' to look like, amen)

the audience doesn't care about the writer only the director and actors. Movie trivia is based around actors and directors.

the poparazzi must jump on the screenwriters also. this way the movie goers will get the real hoe-down on what really goes on.

best step forward Rick and you be the first tabloid star.

oh well, does a writer need notariety. hmmmm

we sorta do help each other in someway. some take it hard some take it open minded. hopefully in the long run everything turns out okay.

none of us are perfect, but I did manage to get around 12 pages into on my script. will be pushing over the seventy mark I hope by the sunday midnite hour. I am hoping to have my first draft completed my monday. I will take 85 pages for.

best get off here if I want to do it.

just like any competition I think. no name should be on the title page or contact address.

just the title of the play should be on it.

This saturday I was on the low 50's and worried about how I could push on with one part. Coming monday at this time I have made it to page 85. I thought at page 85 I might be done. But still going and going. might get to 100 or so. glad i pushed myself, I was getting lazy.

but that laziness has brought new characters into my play.

woof.

marcel :)

but don't give up looking. You never know.

now that is a lot of pages, better than me, takes a strong focus.

Once done I can't see doing too many changes. Just some typos and that stuff to clean up. It's only 85 but I know 100 is going to get it.

I still have to perfect my logline even though others have tried to help. And maybe come up with a new title.

My original title was 'Goddess's of the Ring.' I might go with 'Fight of the Century.'

doing an internet search you will see that moviebytes.com comes up on most searches. Whether beginner of semi-pro at writing a person might want to pitch their idea.

Reading the literature about moviebytes at one time I assumed that moviebytes would be a good resource center for possibly attaining a producer or director.

sure I am glad I signed up and expressed my queries and thoughts, with good and bad responses.

I think that anyone new coming oh here will have the same thoughts as I did once. Unfortunatley we have to tell them the good and bad news. Hopefully they will stay on board and be part of the group as we struggle for success.

Miriam is an inspiration because she has accomplished what we want.

best of luck to all from the new to the old members.

good for you on your team accomplishment, that must of been a challange with two heads knocking together.

when's the divorce (kidding of course)

best of luck

good for you on your team accomplishment, that must of been a challange with two heads knocking together.

when's the divorce (kidding of course)

best of luck

ahhhh! i better get off of here and write

I can't say what the longest I was on a computer typing but isn't wasn't even close to 18 hrs.

you yah, might have history in the making here. My mother, on "Canada day," while working the acreage fence came across a large bin lying in some weeds upside down. She was going to use of a pot for flowers. I decided to look it over and found some lettering on.

I believe we have come across a very large copper basin or cooking vessel that was used sometime in the 17 or 18 hundreds. It comes the way from Montreal some how. Must of fell off a wagon or something.

I hoping it has great value. I shown the provincial museum already. they took a video picture of it and is going to get their archeogolist to look at the film. He wasn't there today. Have my fingers crossed.

I sorta damaged it by buffing down the name. A find like that they want you to give to the original. My mistake.

and some of us like to repeat ourselves and some of us like to repeat ourselves and some of us like to repeat ourselves

you can send your script for feedback to Corus Entertainment. they do the reading out of Vancouver. Send your script if you want but also and an self-addressed letter for return. They just might wanna produce also if they like it.

you're one of 100'000's of thousands who want that break also, there is no easy way in. We an offer you advice but you will have to tough it out. Many people have been writing for years without success but they keep trying.

the people on here can lead you to different websites but they will plugged with writers also. feel free to ask your questions. there are only a few writers on here because they paid to be on here.

I would think others sites that are free will have many writers on. Not saying there aren't wars of words on here but probably not as many. come in with grit, hold your composure and you will do fine :)

best of luck

marcel

cough, hack, cough, hack, what was that again Steve?

cough

if Jesus came back as an agent I would tell him to become an CIA agent and do some investigation into some of those screenwriting competitions.

only teasing of course on wife and husband , but I was getting worried suspicious the first voice came in as Natasha and coming from a male point of view.

only teasing of course on the wife and husband thingy, but I was getting suspicious when the first voice came in as Natasha and coming from a male point of view.

okay I will stop now

any one doing a script on drugs.

hmmm, that is a long time to know each other.

dee gee probably has his scripts registered with the writer's guild for protection, plus if a company took on a script that some else said they wrote it and they didn't.

big trouble for the producer and the screenwriter.

haha funny funny. zoey is okay. I had one play in there and got one review. it wasnt the best review but the person did give me a good idea.

but to read 4 plays the first time round i thought was going to be a grind.

i even have a hard time going and reviewing my own play after I am done.

i think with zoey is once you read your first 4 you should be required to do a 2 to 1 ratio after that. I can't say whether they have good or bad writers, because I've been there myself on that website.

I found myself somewhat to critical when reviewing others plays. but i try to do my best like everyone else.

people get can get hurt by the reviews, but this is something they have to expect. it's really hard to read a play and analyze it trying to keep picture visions in your head.

now where is the double key again.

80>)

watt r the good sights 2 pitch 2 u figger'?

i think we'd needing some assistance from some reporters from those shows to take on hollywood the screenwriters.

I think these shows are looking for new stuff to deal with.

anyone know that Barbara person.

Let's start a moviebytes petition and submit our names on it to one those informative shows.

I'll sign last

time i mean, not tine, must of been my lisp. no wonder my plays have so many typos.

accept except affect effect there their they're your you're is it yeah, yea, ya, or yah.

hmmmm...gotta be careful.

what are the good sites to pitch to to you figure.

the safe ones.

i finished my first draft on my next screenplay, new record for me, 116 pages. what a relief.

not too many changes I think. just some typo hunting and touch ups.

I have to admit I was getting lazy for a while.

have to work the logline again.

it'a a boxing comedy-drama script about two women. rich and middle class.

logline:

Who will end up with the fools gold or will be all fooled about the gold. It's the rich woman against the poor woman in the boxing fight of the century.

is it a screen writing book?

now that I am finished my script I am not to sure I want to post it on Zoey. I hate to read another 4 scripts.

those word reviews are too long to write up.

116 pages was a new one for me and around 6 weeks of on and off writing.

for my antagonist and protagonist it can go either way on who you want. It's a pick'em just like in watching a real boxing match.

loglines are very challenging to write but I believe I have what I want now.

logline:

****Sometimes money can give you a reputation and sometimes it can make you fall. From diamond rings to the boxing rings beauty will turn to beast.***

thanks for the feedback. sometimes it's tough but it does make me think.

lalala lalala

****************************************Money can give women a reputation. A rich girl is about to meet a secretary-hooker. From diamond rings to the boxing rings their beauty is about to turn to beast. It's a pick'em fight. ****************************************

I agree with Miriam, this is how I write my material now. It adds flow.

EXT. BOXING CLUB - NIGHT

Two people stand out the club having a cigarette.

INSIDE

A small crowd as assembled.

OUTSIDE

The two people pull out there guns and move in two the boxing club.

INSIDE

The two people come running in and start shoot their water guns at the unsuspecting crowd.

***** I think some screenwriting books refer to this technique. I think it can be done either way.

I am happy with what I have for books. Everything I imagine is in my head and is almost quite impossible to written in words.

I write on my emotions and other emotions that I think people will feel. If I were to totally break down my script analyze it I would need a dictionary and a storyteller to help me along.

I think having a camera on my face as I write will bring out the meaning I am putting into my writing.

my first book was called 'how to write a screenplay in 21 days.' Not the greatest book but it got me started.

2nd. how "Not" to write a screenplay.

this one I liked, easy to read and had some good points. the person who wrote it had a script put in to the tv star trek series. Plus he reads scripts on a regular basis he says.

3rd. 500 hundred ways to beat the hollywood script reader.

"i'm up to 600"

glad you got the book, hope it helps you.

sorry about the double postings, I don't really have the greatest processor on hand :) processor on hand :)

a beautiful mind over gosford park

sorry to say, but not even close.

you're in hell...hahaha..."but" I wouldn't worry about it too much, we have the tendency to move on in here. Going back 14 days or 7 days to dig up a subject might be too much not unless it is important.

we stick with what is on and what is new.

I hope these words offer you encouragement.

>:-\ ...how do you like my pretty horns?

i wrote a screenplay of a 45 day what can i say still have no payday

I'm taking the last line and putting it in the middle. I think I will be happy with that.

no use trying to format on here. the site tightens things up like undersized bluejeans on a large person.

and yes I am still trying to fit in them.

I would say that any screenwriting course will offer you the same advice. I think a lesser price one can just be affective as higher priced one.

All the answers are in books, you probably need some mentoring along the way I would figure.

logline before the play, hmmm, possible but your play changes as you write.

It's good to have a starting one I guess.

and i would suggest Andrea to hem up your Victorian skirt at least to your ankles. You might faint in a heat wave.

have a good one y'all

staying on my ass has helped.

25 or words or less in a logline I know, this is challenge and half to do. But then again I've made more changes and have gotten to 23.

the way I have it now I think it's BE U TEA FULL.

a few typos you might get away with but make sure they are not in the first few pages. Probably many a good script have been bypassed because of this errors.

i read the book, wrote the play. I took a screenwriting course thru continuing education (that was very affordable ) and learned nothing but gave some ideas to the instructor. BUT, the new others who were there learnt something. And some dropped out. Wasn't going to be easy as they thought to write that screenplay.

100 +

How to write a short logline. I attended a writer's group I am part of and head person told us this.

look at a TV guide and look at the movie logline parts.

try write a logline in there format. Something that will catch the viewer.

yes, you can post your logline, I did already in one posting.

I would have agree with all, but what the lady told me gives me somewhat of a new concept to work from and maybe expand.

anyways, I've printed out my lastest script and going to drop it off at a producer's place near where I live, plus, send it out to an entertainment company and tv station that I know will read it and see if they will take it on.

you can post your logline to Brooklyn Weaver under writers wanted and he will get back to you. expect the unexpected and don't blow up.

what ever happened to Lorie who started this post?

Manfred,

just give me your address so that I can send my script to you.

hahaha :)))))

now where is Lorie.

thanks for the advice people's.

I dropped my script off today a production company (not big), the lady laughed when she read my logline. Plus she liked my title.

She told me she'll get back to me in around 6 weeks. So we'll see what happens.

Hopefully I can bring tears of laughter to her eyes. This was my first attempt at writing an almost full fledged comedy. Does have some drama.

I might even post up a couple lines of dialogue for you to read. Of course I'll get all paranoid putting them up because of the stealing thing. LOL.

As Ashley has previously stated. "you take, I breaka yo face."

:)

page 1

MARCEL

holy mackerels, did you see the

size of that balloon.

(CONT'D)

Page 2.

MARCEL

I guess I shouldn't of tried

blowing up one those hot air

balloons in my house.

EXT. OUTSIDE.

The house is floating away.

this is the way I will do it and won't change.

For double dialogue on a page with action in between I will not use CONT'D.

hahaha...have to double spaced to make it work. Somewhat that is.

the past week or so I would have to say I saw moviebytes at it's best with ideas, feedback, and critiques.

It was a relief to break away from other topics. (seewuu Or woof)

so what you are saying, is take a piece from what our plays and post it on here like a pepsi-coke challenge.

I am somewhat dyslexic.

I don't use page 1, it was just an example.

thanks for the concern.

????????

EXT. FOREST - NIGHT

It was a hot muggy night. The moon was full and melting and giving off a limburger cheese smell and it chased off the clouds. The moons craters looked like warts. It was a good night to be a Werewolf.

WEREWOLF

grr ah grr ahhhh.

I walked into that one ????????

I don't use more any more. More or less. I'm happy with the way I format now. I do have some experience in making films, shorts that is. Just waiting upon an answer to see if I can some funding for a film I shot over the past winter. Editing can be quite expensive. I am hoping to have a 22 minute film when done or longer. ;)

logline:

Diamond ring beauties to boxing ring beasts. A rich girl is going to box a secretary-hooker in the fight of the century.

this was my final logline.

a good writer is one who has attempted to try and better writer is one who has finished a project. Sometimes we are the worst sometimes we are the best.

:)

I would there's in modern film an maybe there is in a older, such as knights and that stuff.

i think I just read my first novel

I was reading from a writers' book of mine and the person stated, right the first draft and then the outline. Once the outline is done go back and touch up the play.

and writing a treatment...hmmm...that would be tough.

I do write some kind of outline but in point form, with loglines I have thought of. Extra is always added whether from points or imagination.

All in all everyone has their own style. Sometimes I will mix pen with computer.

and Ashley, don't forget Canada when you think about how many writers their are. there must be a good 50 of them. so

99,950 American writers + 50 Canadians= 100,000 :)))))))))))

nice to know this,

I thought it was when the writer went to see the producer and the producer says get your ass outta here, right now. Maybe that was quick reversal instead.

I agree with Ashley, how about our rentals of vid's. how about our theater tickets, popcorn, pop, gas, etc...,

read this post lorie. It will help you on your logline.

soooooooo toughhhhhhhh...you have to promote yourself sometimes.

Try to locate a small production company in your area and see if they will read your script/s.

don't think about the big all the time.

I would have to say that people are expressing the views and feelings. When something good happens why not say something about it. It's always a plus to that person and maybe hope to others.

is your husband going to benefit from this relief you are talking about...hahah.

good for you.

m

It takes only one writer to change a light bulb. We just write it in the script. We just make 10'000 others do it for us.

comes down to saying what are the key turning points. Best write those down from your script.

my first reversal from my script is when my character has a vision in her dream after she was previously knocked out. Her vision has given her a new quest.

I didn't write my last screenplay on a three act basis. I went with flow and came off with 116 pages, reduced to 115.

All the pages a important.

marcel

I think the three acts are good but then again I don't. If you can find a nice flow then that should work also.

marcel

the toughest is 'affect and effect''accept and except.' maybe to and too

and to and too is not four...okay

missed out on a grant (60'000) again. Guess I will be holding off on my low budget feature one more time. (I think)

hopefully the other will come through. If so, I know I can pull it off still. (100'000) I know the answer is coming soon. Yikes, I sure hope they like my proposal I wrote.

thanks for the feedback. I can write grants for film and writing but still it's a competition amongst others.

I guess my last two short films that use for reference are somewhat disturbing and probably turn judges off when they see them.

but I know this business well and only the few and determined will pull it off.

I have the skills to apply for writing and filmmaking grants. Just haven't pulled anyoff this year or last.

Guess I better jump on that Telefilm writers grant also and make sure I am not late like I was last time.

I will survive.

ha

When we are out watching movies along with other movie goers who looks for three acts. Are there three acts? three might be 4, 5, 6, 7, even more. Maybe even 1 or 2.

Stereotyping old European movies. Were they 1 or 2 acts?

Truthfully, at a film festival, in March, were I live, I saw from great foreign stuff.

woof, woof. plus research you local museum for information.

marcel

fetch the script, boy, fetch the script.

I saw a bad movie and thought I could write better than that. So I went out and wrote a WWII movie. The writing has been off and on seen that time.

I have 4 features written, 1 television script, and a few shorts. I have some partial scripts written and have ideas on hold (if I don't forget them).

I keep seeing good and bad movies.

bad movies for me.

Mothman Prophecies, Monkey Bones, Crash, Kung Pow, Existence, and numerous others I can't remember. Oh the pain of watching them.

Marcel

1. the introduction 2. the goal or pursuit 3. the set-up. 4. resolving the goal 5. the end 6. possible sequel

it kinda p's me off when I think I have come across and original then in time the name shows up somewhere else. Goes to show there are a lot of thinking writers minds out there.

grrrr..grrrrrr....haha

marcel

You must get use to DG, basically he has hit all of us hard with his comments but also has offered some good ones (I can't remember those ones for now) :)))))

If you can, try to shake off his Capital talk. He's talked like this since I been on. I don't think he's going to change.

Isnt' that right D.G.!!!!!! I don't expect to called by your real name as you can see.

What am I, a black sheep here. I did't get no emails like you all did.

marcel

tis okay for me with DG. I'm used to his typing and big caps.

Steve? I'm I a regular person? :(

hahaha

Stick with the postings. I think a open chatroom would a downfall for this site. Besides, how many of would talk of writing. It would escape us in time with a chatroom.

Plus there would probably be more feuding and bombname-blasting going.

At least in the postings they have a tendency to disappear and we forget.

sometimes that is. heheh

now I'm going to settle down to some bannock and buffalo meat.

Welcome to the world of rejection but stick it out. At least Inzide takes scripts, but not to sure if they actually have taken any on from here.

marcel

I would say keep the comedy minimal. I been seeing movies lately of drama, action, thriller and so on. It seems to me that too much use of comedy tends to kill a good movie. This is my opinion. I don't mind a good laugh occasionally but I do want be to on the edge of seat or deeply involved.

Marcel

The introverted good person: oh darn, I wish I could of said that.

the extroverted bad person: I'm going to blow your brains out.

Guess some writing is about unloading emotions you want to do in real life but can't.

how many have you ever wished you would've of ran through a daisey (money) field with sunny blue skies and no cares?

only in the movies

marcel

will you guys stopping making me thing...geesh...

hahah

marcel

do you know how hard it is to walk around with a foot in my mouth, let alone speak.

but the movies make looks so beautiful.

wheeeeee wheeeeee

mf

For you Canadian writers, I sent and email query to the National Library. I stated they should look into registering screenplays for 10 bucks.

This way we can go down to our local library and have it registered instead of sending it to a writers guild for double the amount if not more.

I hope they take to the idea.

I think I might phone them and leave them an phone message. Of course any of you Ontario writers can phone and tell them of the idea and save me some long distant costs. :))))))))

Marcel

It was nice to see your family picture on your website.

No wonder why you always yell, it's that wild instinct.

Marcel

Come on now, don't take the quick way out.

Our plays aren't like visual work. They don't gain value after we are dead. We have to see our money upfront. Keep on smoking cigarettes and take it slow.

what was that bear entertainment site again?

DG. if we come back areincarnized. Are we gonna chose screenwriter?

:))))) yikes

do this. go out and rent or buy a cheap second hand digital camera. Write a short script, get some local actors or friends and make a short film. You don't need a feature. Try a 3 to 10 minute film. This should keep you motivated.

all the info for making a film is on the internet and free.

Glad to see you are promoting yourself. It's what artist have to do.

looks like they've disappeared into cyber space.

Writing is what I know. But to step forward and make a short film is another challenge. It can be a calling card. I stepped forward and did it. Not saying it was easy. But I had a dream and went out and did it.

You can make it a part time hobby and possibly pick up a distributor who specializes in short films. They are out there.

But if you want to stay with writing I wish you all the best at it.

**DG I'm bringing my tent to your woods to do some camping. I look forward to meeting your family and you. I hope you guys are vegetarians. Do you need any ink for your printer before I head out? One of these days I will sit back and read one of your scripts. I might follow up on your idea also by posting my scripts on a my website. No use keeping them to myself.

Marcel

INT. POLICE OFFICE - DAY

Outside the office door is a sign 'CHIEF MAHONEY.'

****headquarters is a main building*****plus how can we tell it's headquarters. There are lots of other smallers police stations. The only way I can establish 'headquarters' is having an EXT. slug. with a sign on the building.

EXT. POLICE STATION - HEADQUARTERS - DAY

marcel

(not there or their) they're called 'pencil pushers'

marcel

I have a brother who is a schizophrenic and has tried suicide twice. It's a very serious matter if your around it and it affects you very hard. If you are not then it becomes a whole different story and a person can state the anwsers of how to resolve things. Until they are around it then only then they real truely know.

People need support, not saying it can be attained all the time, but you have to save yourself too. Go tell your doctor and get some help, get some medication, try to get involved in different things, try doing some volunteer work.

Even though you might be introverted take small steps to refine yourself and set out goals for yourself so that others can benefit from your well doings.

small steps :)

marcel

INT. COMPUTER - MOVIEBYTES - NIGHT

some is typing and talking.

BILL

blah blah blah blah

JANCE

(Interrupting)

a-hole

******* I do it occasionally when I write my scripts ***************** no probs doing that, my screenwriting program has a setup for something like that.

the cure doesn't happen overnight or even in ten days, it might take 1 year or less or even 25 years. The situation is get help. Don't be afraid to tell your doctor. He can lead you in the right direction. About visiting a psychiatrist, um, maybe you won't have to.

have a happy day or even a happy moment

I have to disagree. Keep the brackets.

When the script is being memorized by an actor they will pick this up as they do when the over look the word CON'T.

marcel

this came out of depths again but tis okay.

I just got the idea from a chickie (lady) who runs a screenwriting organization where I live. She gets some her info from her friend who is a writer here in Canada. Her friends writing credits where on the failed show the Associates and some other Canadian shows.

I might have to ask her when I see her again about that tv guide thing. I know I was convinced to go back to the old ways of loglines. thank goodie ness

well I've go my pregnancy test ready to if some female producer wants some eggs to warm up.

got not go

...hey you moviebytes person. Yah you, get us writer's a friggin editing program for us. I feel embarassed when i put typos in. and have to repeat myself repeat myself.

:)

put in...

Montages of person doing tai chi

whoops I thought he meant what the people were called...I'm defeated once more.

I will still have to go with I've put down.

How do your screening writing programs handle this situation?

Are you getting and feedback on your site and scripts, DG? I am thinking of doing what you have because I know of a website were I can attain a lot feedback from readers who are actors or wannbe actors.

Just by looking at peoples loglines and ideas that have posted on the net, anything can be taken and put into some elses words.

What's the point of keeping our scripts to ourselves?

Marcel

sick, sick...just be careful where you shoot

Mitch, will you get the effing doctor.

:) of course this is to be a motivational expression. Only a few can understand its implications. Right, Mitch.

Mitch, will you get to the effing doctor.

:) of course this is to be a motivational expression. Only a few can understand its implications. Right, Mitch.

(okay I missed a word again before I posted, do not go by the first, use the second) we need an editing program in here moviebytes moderator :)

I am sticking to my guns on this one. I looked over my screenwriting book and see the brackets used in many different scripts. This includes Leathal Weapon. Of course the brackets are used sparingly through the whole script.

I think on my last script I might of used them around 8 times.

(put me on a stretch rack and you still won't break me)

Marcel

good for you, you lucky screenwriter. Might be that catchy title helping you along also. I think your break is near, best start pitching to literary agents and tell them of your winnings with your script.

hurry, hurry.

thanks for trying your best at writing Mitch, I imagine you had some good dialouge and plays to be read.

("we have to move on so we can make way for others. Silence is invisible but it's also emotional")

I agree with Steve. Don't touch. Just wait and see what happens before tampering.

Marcel

I am going to try and see if the paper will publish this: agree or disagree: thank you

**************************************** Us screenplay writers a moviebytes.com wish to send our condolences to Mitchell Bailey, Mitchell was a person who was part of writer's bulletin board who offered and wanted advice just like all of writer's who are members of this group. Unfortunately Mitchell won't be able to join us any more in our conversations and struggles. We would like to thank Mitchell for being part our group. May he rest in great words.

moviebytes writers ***************************************

marcel

(interrupts)

Have a call for request on my lastest script from inzide and have a release form from Zero Gravity for a request on it the same script.

I think I better read it one more time.

eh?

never mind tending to whom we like or dislike on here, we have to move on, we might want to see the perfect life in our scripts but we all know life brings on many different agendas and emotions.

Time to get back on track, whether we feud or not. Out relatives and friends are abound whether we see them or not. Even if they are few.

My mother's brother died yesteday in a snap of a finger. It's a tragedy for sure and I don't like it, but I move on, because I know there is a lot of good and turbulence that is going to happen. And I know I will be part of it.

:-\

It wasn't a great thing he did. He didn't hate his family he just didn't like his life and career. I would have to say he thought he wasn't a postive influence on his kids and thought he could of done better. That's if he hand any kids.

He dreams of success brought him down and he couldn't take it any more. Unfortunate. Will he hear the voices of people speaking of how good he was. The voices he dreamt of in dreams, the successes. Probably not. If he could he would respond.

We come from the earth we go back to the earth.

I can only assume this Hopefully he has attained what he wanted through his spirituality.

the publics image from the media is Tai Chi and a director/producer will recognize it as Tai Chi. Write it as Tai Chi to make things easier for reading.

i have looked and sent my reply.

going in with a comedy drama called 'The Ultimate Goddess.' a 114 page script. Trying to build it around woman's theme. I would have to go look around at a video store and see if I can come across anything similiar. I kinda hope not.

I did copy and paste the pages he mentioned and made some changes I thought would work also.

I will let DG make his decision on my reponse to his script. If he wants to share it with you writers it's his decision :)

If he doesn't like my opinion I don't mind hearing about it. Just don't go freako like the tasmanian devil.

even my first page has a beginning, middle, and end.

check out writersscriptnetwork.com >resources > tip for writers > loglines

practice---noun---a doctor's practice

practise---verb---practising tai chi

oxford dictionary

bloody ell, anyways. I betta earn how to practice my spellin.

easy on the lingo, it's going to affect your woodworking skills there Steve. It doesn't become you.

What am I going to say to all those famous people I'm having tea with in my 2000 foot square entertainment room.

"Don't mind the scripts being my fourth leg that holds up table. I bought it off Steve on a bad day. don't you think it looks fashionable."

I can relate to your theorem. Wood becomes paper, paper becomes part of wood. It's so smart of you.

and I love the title that reads below. "The forth leg on a coffee table." It sounds so European, I just can't wait to read it and produce it and make into a multi-million dollar movie.

Inside in inZide: >>>>100-250 loglines a week. 15%-20% the percentage we request to see every week varies depending on the quality of the loglines,

workd those loglines, peoples

I've seen low budgets films done at 20'000. Digital technology is bringing a lot of things down to earth as writers go on to make their own lowbudget films. wit I got an idea from a recent post on here that gave me an idea for a feature that I can shoot and write. I think I will do it. I bet I can make a feature film for under 500 dollars. Not saying it would be the greatest film with the greatest dialogue. I will keep you posted if I go for it or not.

you have no probs letting people read your scripts. hmmm

well, if I could I would get some up but my website won't let me load up. Might need a different text program.

It won't take on Word.

Like I was trying to remember which lady (chickie) was missing for the past week or so and then she shows up. It was Mylo whose name I couldn't conjure up.

thanks for the postings on reads. Also I found out or if you don't know, is that Inzide gets about 100-250 logline pitches a week and they only pick up about 15-20% of them.

The theory once more as stated in here by others: and make it interesting.

A= Character

B= Plot

has to be told in around 25 words.

what did you use to load up your scripts onto your website. DGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!

How does on upload a script if a website doesn't accept word doc.

mf

just text it seems for now. How do I convert a word doc to rtf or even pdf. No luck on the pdf I tried, not unless I have to own the software for pdf.

marcel

don't be afraid to head down to your local university or hospital to dig up some one on one information on dna. tell them your a writer and need some inside info. it's part of a writer's research.

best of luck

marcel

well I am getting a canadian dictionary, that should confuse everyone.

huck, toque, eh, and those are just a few to make you go wild.

I seen that word used in Windtalkers. Semper if. does it have a meaning, I just caught it at the end of subtitle.

I had to see the movie, I am part Native.

mf

ohhhhhhh...

hehehehe....hehehehehehehehehehehhehehe....hehehehehehehehehehehehehehe...I am so forgetful...hehe

thanks

la-lalalala ...la-lalalala

Movie central outta vancouver BC called me up (by phone) and ask for an extra script of mine. Said they needed three and they had two, but I only sent out one (I think).

good thing they called, I justed re edited my script and cut it down to 114 pages and got a rid of a lot of typos.

why are they doing this to me!!!!!Why, why!!!!!!

:)

ohhhhhhhh

I wouldn't show the butt. only a side shot of the pig or a close up that shows emphasize (typo?) that were the bombardment is coming from (like the hip). It only takes a second to show it because the audience can pick up the mind viusualization quite quitely.

No need to show the a-hole. it will cause the audience to look away I would say and some will miss the film and it's after effect.

I think you might be wanting to give yourself a karate chop right now. You have entered a screenwriters group mostly, but it's good to see you are choosing other avenues. I think there are a few filmmakers in here.

best of luck

marcel

don't do french. just a french metis` name, got some native blook in me. Basically brought up in a white society where the use of other languages were lost.

what he done has hurt a big circle of people in some what good and bad ways. He has affected too many that new him closely. What is the vision that they carry with them now when in times of need besiege his close ones?

Was it a good thing or bad thing? Guess it depends on a persons point of view.

This is my last posting on Mitch.

johnny you stutter when you get anxious, going by that last post...

:))))

marcel

Yes, there is chewing tabacco up here. I imagine Skoals and other top products can be bought at any store that sells the product.

If I were to choose a flavour (flavor: american) I might go with back-bacon flavour.

say

good to see you had some options, but doesn't mean you can perfect my script. Would if you actually made it worse. No script is never at a final draft stage. If I were to let you dabble with mine I would go back and change it again.

I think I will pass. besides your costs are to high for my blood. for us canadians it would cost us anywhere from 600 to 800 bucks just for you to read it and give your opinion.

and what where these script called you had optioned out?

mf

myself have a written a war drama a few years ago and will now go back and retouch it...but...before I do I just wanted to let you peeples that are writing a war drama I might have a title for you...I thought of this idea yesterday, I am going to change my title of screenplay but will not use the title of suggestion for you peeples.

Look up above the box and look at the gray border.

The title of your war movie.

"Semper Fi."

DG, sometimes you leave me dumbfounded and I have to go over your replys twice or three times to understand them. Sometimes more.

oh well, at least your posts keep me thinking.

mf

pgs. 9 and 10, from 'how not to write a screenplay,' by Denny Martin Flinn. He mentions them and uses them, therefore; I shall follow his guidance on this one...ommmmm, ommmmm.

mf

I know nothing, I know nothing.

mf

is this a site where you can post and sell your script. Probably been there before just forgot about it.

mf

what is it, a drama, comedy, how many changes do you really need if any?

mf

send me your script through this site by email and let me read it over. I will give my opinion if you want and possibly make some suggestions. Not saying that you have to change anything.

it will be safe with you, not out to steal since I have my own sorta thriller.

mf

you can give your character the chewing thing because he use to assoicate with native people when he was younger.

I remember as a child going on to Metis colonies that some of the people used chewing tobacco. Of course they were bussed to some white communities for schooling.

I think farmers might even chew tobacco.

Maybe this can give help you out.

mf

this site will toughen you up, so best of luck, try take the critism with an open mind. In the long run you will see. You might get into some word confrontations by try to overlook them and move onto others.

just because we offer a suggestion doesn't mean you have to with what we say, just ponder it over a day or two.

As one cow said to another cow. I am sure I can't get that mad cow disease, it's nice being a sheep. Or was that writer to writer.

don't overpush the limits on the rewrite. Maybe a few scenes can be added or deleted. Same with the dialogue.

you need a place to relax and think things over. What have they said that is wrong with your script? Maybe one powerful scene can make the final grade. Maybe there is nothing wrong with it at all.

ask your people to fly you in and talk it over in person. that would something good to benefit from.

I think there are some good psychatrists online to help you get you thru this tough moment

mf

sounds like you have to do a treatment to me.

Create a same past for your characters on paper on computer. What there lives when they were growing up. Not saying that growing actually ever stops.

growing up stops on the word 'fade out'

give what you have to your producer and go in positive, chest out, back straight, focused eyes, and a smile. "here it is"

treatments are harder to write then screenplays.

Linda, you can come and start asking your questions now. I think we got things off our minds and chest. don't be frightened.

:)

mf

I am using 'digiscript' that uses word.

I still can't upload, but then I have to get my new site up that is a pain in the butt. I do have a cheap host on hand but I have to design my own website.

I have easy to do cd's for webpages. Think I can do them. nopers.

I tried signing up with them but somehow couldn't. Do I have to send in those fax letters first?

do you think any producers come to this website to read our loglines, or maybe there are too many to read?

and, it's coming to month that I sent my lastest script to Inzide.com with no response. I know I sent one last year and the response was a lot quicker even though it wasn't a postive one.

Like Sam said. You are considered Metis if you have some French and Native blook in you. Those are the two important ones. You can start scrabbling the eggs with other bloods after words as long as you have the first two.

Metis people can be dark as any Native, not saying all Full bloodied Natives are dark, and they can be white as snow with all colors of hair. You can be considered Metis with German, Scottish, and anything else, once again I must say, as long as you have the French and Native.

For other mixed bloods with out French but with Native probably have their own names. Such as halfblood, quarterblood, halfbreed, and who knows what else.

mf

well, for one thing when I write I don't put a actor's face into my script. I have my own descriptions to work with. The production companies worry about that.

if there are other alternatives, well let me hear about it also.

mf.

We write screenplays, what your asking for is mofe of a stageplay setup. Not too many screenplays have 4 actors. Plus our scenes are scattered about.

For one of us to step forward and write a play around your idea take a little work, plus we try to go for 90 to 120 pages as we write. By the time the play is finished we might have over a 100 separate scenes if not more.

You have your idea down, just grab a pen and start writing down some ideas. In time they will come together and you will have your own play on hand.

I have experience in producing and directing my own material and I can't really conceive your idea as a screenplay. It would make for a good stage play.

best

marcel

movie themes are always being recycled over and over, you might of seen you film, doesn't mean they have your dialogue. Keep on working on it and get that logline down.

he's on a break away, he tinkers with the cylindrical item with this going back and forth with it. He glides down the ice on his skates with open ice. He cranks his shoulder for a wrist shot. He shoots the cylindrical item passes over the goalies' shoulder.

He shoots he Skoals.

mf

some papers state I am a libra others say scorpio. Since I am of a Metis background it goes with out saying. astrology is not astromony but both are based around the stars.

Merrit and the girls having fun at the table in the bar dancing and getting drunk through the night. They begin to leave the bar at different times. Merit leaves first

INT. BEDROOM – NIGHT

Merrit still in clothes, plops into her bed and looks at the clock, 3 am

INT. BEDROOM - NIGHT

Ally and Liz, both drunk, stumble into a room and plop on a bed. They laugh and giggle.

Julian, smiling, enters the bedroom and sees that Ally and Liz have passed out. A cell phone rings near Ally, HOME, is on the display, Julian reaches for the phone and turns it off. She covers the girls with a blanket, smiles, and then leaves, closing the bedroom door.

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my opinion for your review

marcel

if it's good it doesn't matter what kind of pie is in front of eye, that includes shepard .,,,,,,,,,,look I, am dribbling now thinking about it,,,,,,,,,,

I wanna know about the prizes, I didnt see any on their website. I have almost two ready to go. A 45 minute documentary, done with an almost zero budget except time and gas and a mockumentary I wrote and shot the past winter. I wanna know about the money prizes involved.

wonder who got their play registered first. I might of created a monster.

Okay, I just noticed this is a chick flick with chicks. are we two different locales here. like bar party and house party?

not that I want to venture too much further than I have to. ......................................

Merrit, somewhat quiet and observant, watches her friends have fun at a bar, they dance and get drunk. She occassionally has the smile, I really care what your doing, but inside she couldn't care less.

INT. JULLIANS HOUSE - NIGHT

Ally and Liz are partying away at Juliann's house.

EXT. BAR - NIGHT

Merrit leaves the bar by herself.

LATER ON

Merrit still in clothes, plops into her bed and looks at the clock, 1 am

INT. JULLIANS HOUSE - NIGHT

Ally and Liz are still partying.

INT. BEDROOM - NIGHT

Merrit, on her bed, rolls over and looks at the clock. 3am. She reaches for the cell phone? or regular phone?

INT.

Ally and Liz, both drunk, stumble into a room and plop on a bed. They laugh and giggle.

Julian, smiling, enters the bedroom and sees that Ally and Liz have passed out. A cell phone rings near Ally, home, is on the display, Julian reaches for the phone and turns it off. She covers the girls with a blanket, smiles, and then leaves, closing the bedroom door. ______________________________________

sorry don't want to go too much further indepth with that one. take it away

mf

being Metis can give you some things but not all things. Metis pay taxes, the only people who don't have to pay taxes for now are Native People that work on Reservations. Step beyond that area then you pay taxes.

But this way of life is being put under seige by provincial and federal governments. In time all people will be paying taxes. Contracts have to broken.

As for this field I am trying to break into, is just as hard as anyones else's endeavors. I got a grant from the National Film Board to edit my last film. Not a lot. 1000. 1000 doesn't go very far. This is all i got this year. Good thing I new a couple of people at the NFB.

If had more Native blood and where pursuing more educational careers then the money for funding is out there but you still have to apply for it and state your objectives.

Money is abused by Natives sometimes but that goes with out saying for others also. Politicians, stock companies, students...

can someone slap me with a million dollar bill. I want to feel a high grossing pain.

see, it's my challenged attention defeciet disorder to read there M. I think in life time I've read only one or two novels from beginning to end. Thank goodness for some short shorties.

For me to step in a writer is quite a task so I try to keep the words simple for other to understand that are in my situation. ;)

but...haha...I was right about onto the chickflick chick thing. but I hope this offers a better insight into description, not saying that has to changed.

also, if Merrit is a smoker, she can fire up a cigarette after looking at the 3am reading. and fall asleep and die in a fire. or think about getting a sex change and changing her to a him name like Marcel. Oh what a fantasy...drool drool...

good for you Mr.Vet...oh oh, another title to squabble for.

service attendant sounds good to me. They also keep the traffic flowing.

maybe porter.

mf

I just put my logline and synop for The Ultimate Goddess.

so do I have to change my word doc to an rtf. file. That really clusters up a script.

mf

can you bring me back jelly donuts and large coffee on your way back. I try not to get icing on the book covers

thanks

mf

can you bring me back two jelly donuts and a large coffee on your way back. and try not to get icing on the book covers

(mistakoes in the first as usual)

thanks

mf

so what's your drama movie going to be called. "Tongue Lashing"

Wouldn't that good on a producers desk.

marcel :)

thanks for giving me a sign.

I agree on filming it with a digital camera. I don't think any of us writers want to step forward and write the script, that is a big commitment and plus their are the writing issues you'd have to deal with if you took our words to production.

I would improv your ideas with actors and put them on film and then edit it. I think things would work out great this way. If you want to be producer and director then I would step back and forget about the acting and let the others do it. It will be too much of a work load to do all.

You can rent digital cameras for a fairly reasonable price. Look for a film cooperative in your area and you'd be surprised what kind of prices you can get. You necessarily don't need a 3 chip digital camera (not putting the idea down). Mini cameras are good, and yes, make use of an external mike and not internal.

mf

If you need some meditation time, quite possibly in the near future you might get a chance and do some yoga with a show I am trying to pitch to a station up here in Canada. I hope I attain that broadcast license. Sent out the proposal auggy 28. If I get it I will be looking a yoga program in the fall of 2003. It would be nice to get 13 shows in for the spring of 2003. But only time will tell.

gonna need some development funding. I have my yoga instructor on hand plus a experienced documentary film producer to help me with budgets. Now only if she would invest into one my film scripts. :) ommmmmm...coming with an Aboriginal theme...not ommmm...iii a iii i iii...haha

what was the longest wait for your reply on your script from Inzide.com?

I'm at a month + for now.

recent headline in newspaper" I LIKE THE CAPS TOO" but don't make it too long. This will give the director or editor a scene to work with.

mf

so i make up this bad joke from this posting but see if you can make something from it for your lady friend. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a woman screenwriter walks into a doctors office and tells him she needs an effective monologue for an actress friend in need to impress a director. The doctor says to her why not tell your actress friend to open her legs and say, ah. what more would you need?

signed: anonymus

tough one to answer, my last synopsis I didn't give out how it ends.

mf

I was kinda hoping it would inspire a monologue for your actress buddy. She is looking for something humorous, is she not?

mf

those times are horrible for me, especially at this time of year. If I could watch your screenwritten movie I wouldbut I don't have Showtime, even though I should .

did it ever make it to the movie theaters? Is it on vhs?

not sure on American politics since all politians are run by business. I don't know who these people are but since you have a disliking for taft I can give you an idea to work with.

How about a older woman struggling to carry a cross on her back. On the cross have written. "this is taft's way to heal the handicap. You should know what is next.

mf

I would probably use the word more towards a live play. eg: the theatre ensemble gathered for the ovation.

the dance ensemble gathered together before the music started.

hmmm...the movie ensemble...don't work for me

mf

If you send an e-mail to bscreen2000@yahoo.com you'll get details on an inexpensive ($20 per script) review service. Usual response time is 5 to 10 working days for a 1 to 3 page review>>>>>this is from an old posting...but do they have a website to go to?

nope, I usually do dramas. comedies are a more difficult to write, but I did make my last script a comedy drama.

but nothing like a crazy line to make the audiences laugh. I've heard worse and seen worse. :)

writing is to diverse and creative. When I see jackson and madonna grabbing at their crotches when they perform it can be any worse than a bad joke that some people laugh at. I think us men an woman have heard some doozies and told some....is it the little angel or little devil we choose on our shoulders to abide by. hmmmm...

it's business as usual, I'd take that million dollar contract any time. this is entertainment business and it makes money. I didn't see the show and seen parts of the canadian popstars of women. they've become fallen stars. I think the americans take more to their talent than canadians do to their own. canadians take more american talent than their own home based goods.

but all is affected by the american product. it reaches world wide. nothing i can do about it.

anyone in the states can take me in. and what happened to DG!!!!!!!1

mf

is your film a feature or short. plus don't forget to use external mikes.

I just had a film of mine edited and not using external mikes in a building is a killer for sound. eyuck.

well, I am still going to send it to sundance film fest. my film is 40 minutes long. did it on digital. its a parody on city workers. gonna have to do a reshoot I think, but much learned I say. :( ...now i need some prozac.

mf :)

here i am thinking selfishly about myself on this posting. how shameful...best of luck on the shooting.

having experience in making film. it is not an easy task if your producer, director, writer of your own stuff. I took on costumes, some makeup, food crafts, almost everything that needed to be done.

don't take on too many hats because it wears you out, but sometimes you have to because you know what you want.

biggest thing for the actors is to make sure they have coffee on hand and some snacks.

best of luck

oh, movie ensemble, now i get it. I like it.

can't afford those american contests for now. exchange rate from canada is too pricey. at least the province i live in is having a provinicial affair wrting with no outsiders allowed in. plus the prize money seems decent, 3000 i think. I could be wrong, could be less.

I think you hit a good nerve with that thought Steve. Now that you mentioned it, I bet, you'll see the channel up next year in the beginning of the 2003 fall season ifnot before that.

you think only writers peer in here. nuh uh.

marcel

I would think you'd have to look towards europe for that stuff. Try your local library. They might have something on hand, like a movie or even a documentary that dealt in those situations.

speaking of drinks, don't forget continuity in your shots. Now was that glass half full or half empty.

was she smoking camels or dumauriers?

hmmmmm...

I don't why some people state flashbacks are signs of an amateur writer. Nuh uh

Some films that used flashbacks to tell part of a story. I've seen hundreds of films and beyond and I know I seen many a flashback. I can remember all. I have a few to go on. What you do you have on mind?

Dark Crystal, Mememto, Private Ryan...

don't forget your 'storyboards,' yikes, so important when doing your shots.

if only I could email this guy.

mf

three different locations with day and night scenarios.

I would go with the slugs.

mf

i have to follow my gut, it sticks out the most

mf

I tire of the spam coming to me and porno does create humankind monsters. The internet has great resources but also bad. More and more victims will be beseiged by too many sites on the internet. Watch out children, watch out women, watch out men, watch out you, watch out me.

Ted Bundy made porno his cause to hunt and kill innocent victims. But there are many more to blame. So much has changed to the internet. Anyone can falter. Even Playboy has its roles. How does one stay in control?

mf

Many writers misuse parentheticals. Do not add a parenthetical comment to the dialogue (yelling, coughing, etc.). The emotional content of the dialogue should give the actor a cue as to how to act. Parentheticals should only be used to show action as the character is speaking, such as (throws the glass across the room) or (shuffling through papers) or used to clarify who the character is speaking to (looks over at Karen).

In addition; Since most writers are not directors, writers often confuse a CUT with a DISSOLVE, and are not sure when to use one or the other. DISSOLVE TO can be used to indicate a shift in time or a dream/fantasy sequence. As a writer, you should write DREAM SEQUENCE BEGINS or ENDS and leave out the directions.

I got this from an online newsletter.

mf

their market is for the young adult. this hasn't changed over the years and will keep on going and going. If we reflect on our younger years I can imagine we saw films of these sorts. :)

mf

you have to take your lumps with your bruises. My logline has been looked at a 11 times with no reponse on the syn or script. Guess I gotta be happy with that. :)

mf

...oh lookie there...just as I was typing i got an email from fredericks of hollywood...I wonder if they are film producers...

I see that Syd is going to be in my town for a few hours teaching a workshop in October. Hope I don't forget and miss it. I'll ask him about those 'wrylies,' if I get a chance to attend the workshop.

mf

it doesn't matter if it's been done before, all has be remade and reshoot. You have your own dialogue and scenes to work with. I can see that movies are using alot of fx stuff nowadays for their movies to draw a crowd. I'm not sure if the younger generation of males can handle a well written drama anymore. action, action, it's gotta be action.

Plus I agree on the home theatre thingy. Can't afford it, yet, but in time I know I want one those huge screens in my home. I want to raise it about 4 feet off the ground, have a lowered chair, and get that that big screen affect. For movies of course, and sit back with some microwave popcorn and soda all for a lowered cost.

(I might have some leads if you don't know about it already. www.mandy.com >>>check out 'production')

mf

I might of got two posting mixed together. but for writers block for a month...hmmm...create some pictures in your head and follow them to words. Add a new twist in your play even though it doesn't need to there.

mf

A womaninzing man's smooth talking whiskey lips have to dry out as he finds out he befriended a new friend, his son.

mf

possibly your script has come to an end. go back and add or change a few lines.

mf

go rent the movie kungpow or monkeybones, or eight-legged freaks. these movies will make you wanna to write. those were toughies to sit through.

mf

good to see you are in post. I am getting my lastest film re-edited. I will enter it into the winnipeg film festival since it's one of the top 4 in Canada. You still have to chosen by a jury. I coming in with a 40 minute parody on city workers and hopefully a short documentary.

I am, also, hoping to have my film ready to send out the Sundance film festival, that deadline is sept 27. I would take Sundance over Winnipeg, not putting Winnipeg down, because I was there in 2000 with my first every short film.

best of luck on your post prod. and add is some sound effects if you need. You can download them of the net, hope you did digital.

mf

I am doing only one for now. The ultimate goddess. Inzide has had it for almost 2 months now. I got turned down on CBC because they were looking for a MOW script. Movie Central has my script, as so does Gravity.

I going over an old old script I wrote by hand many years ago, but never finished. It's a young adult comedy film. Hope if can save it some how since I haven't seen it years. I just glad to have found it.

mf

FADE IN:

FADE OUT:

our plays never really end, because of touch ups.

holy cow, amen

>;)

www.learningannex.com <<<>>> www.mandy.com

I know I am taking in some stuff over time.

marcel

Yes, I know of the film fest name change. I will be entering with the parody called, the unheard stories of the city worker, and, central beach volleyball (a documentary). No guarantees that will make it past the jury. but there are the sundance, cannes, berlin, hollywood, tellirude, and many more biggies. I want to make it to the biggies this time round.

always tough, just like writing and entering contests.

mf

I'm amazed/dumbfounded how some of the people can write many a word in their postings. wuuf. I'm not to sure if I could do that, but you never know.

mf

I've had my share of smiles and laughs from others on here. good stuff.

marcel

I turned my 1/4 finalist 'smooth rocks' screen play into a 3000 word short story and recently submitted into a short story contest held by CBC up here in Canada. Looks like some great prizes if a person can pull one off.

mf

when i wrote my first screenplay i never thought about contests, I only thought about getting it on to screen. of course that hasn't happened yet, but in time I think it will.

mf

i'm kinda hoping CBS picks me up as an actor and so that I can slip into writing for their station. I sent out a artists resume and one of my short films a couple of months ago, as for they where calling upon American Native actors. i decided to take a chance even though I live in canada. i have some Native blood in me along with a few other colors.

On wed. 18, i got a call from one of the actor union associates down there in the states and he wanted me to send me more material; a brief monologue (under a minute) of either drama or comedy scene (they gave me deadline of sept 27 to have it in. so I did a brief part from one of plays and put it on vhs. went for the drama role and sent it out on the 20th.

hope they reel me down towards that part of continent. I kinda look forwards to taking in some california sunshine and leave the canadian winters behind me.

mf

the best way is probably to get your novel published first and write the screenplay second. you'll find the screenplay and novel will be somewhat different but yet similiar.

myself considered to writing a novel from my screenplay and it did get started a year ago and then went dead. after seeing a contest for short stories and poetry i decided to take what i had written and make it into a short story. even published short stories have been made into screenplays.

novel first, then the screenplay. i think you will up your chances.

mf

no colon...hmmm. personally, i still would leave out 'the end'

mf

i'm thinking about putting on my scripts into short stories. I would be a challenge to write a novel. Not saying that i would like to write one. I attempted but faltered as stated. I you will get different opinions on here, but think things over and go with your heart after reading our opinions.

mf

my logline has been looked at 15 times with a zero on the synopsis. It might be the title that's causing others to peer at the logline.

shoot :(

mf

it almost put in tears reading it. so truthful.

http://www.kathrynagraham.com/screenwriting.html

mf

good to see some people's scripts are been read :)

mf

why string them together when you can numerate them.

1.WHEN ALL IS SAID AND DONE 2.NORSE AMERICA is a reality show 3.MIND SHIFTs TIME & AGAIN 4.CAN'T STOP NOW 5.ASSASSIN 101.

mf

bye bye boat. I like the land anyways.

hahah

i did a posting with my titles and it didnt show. must of sunk in the water before it showed up here.

hahah

if I was to call upon a script for these people who offered their services i bet I would make changes to their scripts.

go to www.zoetrope.com and get your script read by others for free. BUT, you have to read 4 of theirs.

mf

there you go, another opinion, as you can see there will be different options to work from.

youuuuuuuuuu have to make the decision

:O not me, oh noooooooo

mf :)

mr. calderwood seems to be holding back on something. Wonder if he struck the writer's jackpot?

mf

Hello, I am offering my screenwriting consultation fees for the price of only 75$, this is 99% cheaper that most consultants. Syd Field charges 2500 for a script analysis.

I will give you a thorough analysis of your script, I gained this experience by reading scripts from Zoetrope. All cheques must be made in Canadian funds. I am a quarter finalist screenwriter and an awarding filmmaker. If you think you need some fixing I can do some correcting and repairing of your script and put you at a higher level of competition.

thank you. you can contact me here.

marcel

tough thing to do and wish you the best on your new journey.

mf

I was only kidding people, but when I think of it now. I think it can be done. Why not, most of us have the experience I have.

when you're done and submit out your film to festivals make sure you take in the top 20. you research that. top festivals

sundance, toronto, tellirude, cannes, berlin, new york, ...

Hello, my writer friends. I would like to know if a couple of you could read my last script and give me some feedback on it. Do you think it's viable for theatrical release.

thank you my friends

marcel, your everloving writer friend :)

thanks, I will owe you a favor and I consider myself and honest person.

best

marcel

Coach's Corner ********************************************************************* This month I am honoring a few special requests for common terms used in the Industry. Below are terms that every writer needs to commit to memory. You never know when you will run into or receive a call from someone using these terms. ALWAYS be prepared. Knowing these terms will keep you out of the amateur category. Above the Line: Writers, star actors, directors, producers, and composers. This "line" is the mythical divider between the expensive talents whose name may help lure the audience and those who build the sets, sews the costumes, etc. Back Story: Events that happened to one or more of the characters before the script begins. Below the Line:Everything else on production, including members of the crew, actors of lesser status than the stars, doubles and stunt people, and lower-level staff personnel. Blue Pages: The first color inserted into the pages of a white shooting script indicating that there are dated and marked changes on those pages. It is not unusual for a script to look like a rainbow by the time principal photography is complete. Deal Memo: A short agreement, often no more than a page in length, spelling out the terms of an agreement. Most work in Hollywood proceeds on a deal memo. Contracts are so complex that it is not uncommon for a picture to be completed before the final contract is drafted and signed. Green Light: This means you have gotton the word to go make the picture. Green light is a word people in the industry want to hear. Heat: Heat on the project or the writer means there is great interest in the industry about the project or the writer. Honey Wagon: Small trailers housing portable toilets. These are stationed near sets on studio back lots or at location sites for the use of cast or crew during filming. Housekeeping Deal: An arrangement with a creative entity such as a writer or independent producer in which the studio supplies office space and pays certain overhead expenses. In exchange for payment of these expenses, the writer or producer must give the studio the opportunity to purchase what is created or developed during the period of the arrangement. MBA: For screen and television writers the MBA is the Writer's Guild Minimum Basic Agreement for fees to be paid and conditions to be honored. Net Points: Payments to a net profit participant (usually the writer or writers) begin after just about every imaginable deduction has been made against the studio's gross income on a picture. Hollywood insiders refer to net points as "monkey points" because few writers ever collect them. Production Bonus: An additional payment given to a writer when credits are determined. (Credits are determined after the completion of principal photography and before release to thaters or the broadcast of the film.) A production bonus must be spelled out clearly in the contract. (NOTE: Most companies no longer offer a production bonus but there is always room for negotiation.) Script Assignment: When a writer is hired to write a screenplay from someone else's concept, or to adapt a piece of literary material such as a book, short story, or newspaper or magazine article. The writer does not ever own this type of writing. Script Doctor: A writer who is hired to rewrite or to improve parts of an existing script that is headed for production. A script doctor may or may not get screen credit, depending upon the amount of that writer's contribution to the shooting script. Shelving: To decide not to make a picture that's been in development. Instead of putting it in turnaround, it is put on the "shelf" to fade from memory. Completed pictures are sometimes "shelved" because it is thought by the financing company that they are not worth the money it would cost to make the prints and buy advertisements necessary to release the pictures. (NOTE: A company may buy 50 scripts, 15 of those bought get the green light, 9 get shelved. So, out of 50 scripts 6 actually get made and released.) Spec Script: A script conceived and written on "speculation" - that is, with no promise of sale or option prior to the writing. Step Deal: An agreement by which a writer is paid for his work in stages. The first payment might be for writing the treatment or outline, another payment for writing the first draft, second draft, etc., according to the specifics of the agreement. The writer can be let go after any given "step" at the discretion of the purchaser of the work. Subplot: A subplot is a secondary story that runs parallel to the main plot. A subplot provides a necessary brief diversion or respite from the main action. In series television, a subplot is called "the B story." Turnaround: To have a project "put in turnaround" means that the financing entity, usually a studio, has decided not to go ahead with the project and is allowing it to be purchased by another studio for production. The second studio must then reimburse the first studio for money spent, or pay any other consideration that may be in the contract. Basically, it is very expensive for another studio to pick up a turnaround. Writing Credits: These are determined by the Writer's Guild after principal photography has been completed but before the picture is released. Writing credits can tell a little story of their own for those who can read them. Such as, "Written by" means that the script is an original work, not based on any other work. "Screenplay by" means that the script is based on some other work, such as a book, a play, newspaper article, or someone else's story. The word "and" between the names of the writers means that they worked seperately, and the name in the first position was deemed to have contributed the most to the shooting script. An ampersand (&) between names means that the writers worked as a team.

you were close. but as I go over my silliness, i think most of us are quite qualified to read and critiques others scripts. there sure enough of them out there and new writers are always looking for advice.

i just might set up shop in the near future.

i seeing costs from 300 up to 2500 (syd field) it would be a nice part time home job for some one.

mf

i did email marc, and like his idea, and it's doable (is doable a word). I still would have to give it consideration. to write a story on a golf course. I do have general idea of what i would write.

marc, i have to think about it more before i jump on course.

best

marcel

possible he could be dead, possible he could be drinking tea huddam yousane.

mf

Just wanted to say a hello.

mf

i got this from an internet news letter. i have read all of it myself yet

mf

most contests won't have a contact number, only an email address to address concerns to.

if you were running a contest would you want to give out your phone number?

mf

as you can see contests are coming up left right and center and any writer can start up a constest.

if you go through moviebytes contest scroll you'll see outrageous prices along with cheap prizes. this money is going straight to the pockets and most the scripts straight to the garbage. Life is good. :)

in time I will starting my own contest in short scripts and might move on to producing a film. And about leaving my number, sure, but I won't answer, I'll just leave a message stating that I tending to other matters. I will try to get back to you. (heheh) I know that works well.

marcel

sorry, you have to tough it out like us, but keep on trying. Look for contests here but make really sure which ones are legit. It can get pricey entering contests.

best of luck

mf

you guys are always taking american prices and i hate that because it confuses me, hold it, i think i hate math more.

can't canada just call your states provinces. i think things would turn out well amongst friends and costs.

hmmm, i think i might run for prime minister of united states. is it 6 months i have to live there to qualify for americanship so i can put myself in as a canidate?

marcel

i know steve c is one, but i have seen a couple pass by, just couldn't remember who they were. oh well, keep on writing.

:)

mf

anyone thought of a hostel for affordable prices.

best of luck who are heading down there.

marcel

just a few, i see, but thanks. it was a good posting. There are some good points and could used in writing. Creating new characters of different colors and that stuff. :)

marcel

i think you're metis bryan. there are special programs out there for people of aboriginal backgrounds. But like everyone else you still have to apply and wait for the yes and no. Happy hunting on your Metis status. Look around your state for possible leads then move towards canada by using the internet.

that's if you want to admit you have native blood. Some people who have it don't like others to know they have it.

marcel

in previous post. talking not taking. I'm going mad, I'm going mad. :O ahhhhh

how's the reading coming along.

best

marcel

reading your script, Bryan, I know you want to sell it, but I bet thats a screenplay you can shoot yourself. You have the experience in production. But it's only a thought on my behalf. Well, except on that crash scene. That might take some doing.

It was an easy play to read and moved along quickly. You got my notes. I hope it leads you to success.

mf.

so was it you my sweet favorite Miriam....hahaha...kidding

best of luck if it is

mf

looking at one my tv scripts, i used the CONT'D. so you will be fine.

--------

marcel

sure. Orlanda, i will take what you have.

best

marcel

sure. Orlanda, i will take what you have for notes, bad and good. it's those notes that move me along.

best

marcel

i've read some scripts were writers have referred to old tv shows and action scenarios from books to add to their scripts. Sometimes I might find this a bad thing if I haven't seen/read the show/book.

Do you think this a good idea or bad. For I try to stay away from this because who do i know who is going to read or direct my script.

what if the person has no idea of what the book was about or what the heck show was that mentioned. Would this a negative in your script

---marcel---

doesn't hurt to try it. it cost you 40 I believem if your in the states. for us canooks it cost 60 with the exchange.

i haven't had a bite yet on my script, even though the logline has been looked at 21 times.

I guess strong oriented shows about women is not the norm.

has to be the guy and girl thing in movies that people want.

marcel

I'll do it for free, since I filmed a couple of my short. send me an email if you want. Write 'shortscript' in the subject line

mf

are you going to film it or what? What are you plans, and do you want a short story or script?

mf

never had a writing partner but i know there have been a few.

that guys who owns screenwriter utopia has a pretty good book out on the market. it has a story in there about two writers that wrote something together even though they were many miles apart.

his book is a nice little reference for any writer from beginning to seasoned.

mf

first of all, what country are you in? do you have a contact address? do you have a website to look at? what are you plans if I do give you a story? How are you going to film it and what will be your plans with?

these are things I need to know because I have produced some of short scripts.

mf

save yourself some money by not sending out your first drafts. If readers start finding mistakes with the first few pages expect your script to be quickly passed on to the waste paper bucket of hell and the cheque is kissed to the bank of heaven. (use that spell check)

mf

I imagine the storybay is worth some money and he has a nice bankroll to tote around, so sounds like a good productive mix.

next big company. get your stocks invested. :) except writers can't afford stocks, just socks

mf

mf

I was just seeing who would look, good to see Steve and Miriam posted on the writerscriptwork. it is moviebytes Miriam? and congratulations on see those money signs in your eyes.

head to website www.wordsallowmotion.com . If you have a short film, head to the place I have mentioned who distributes my short films and make an inquiry about them about your film.

they offer a contract. 70-30 for the artist if they like it. you usually get a quarterly cheque. for a few years. 30 bucks to who knows.

try the national screen institute, their competition is coming up and its one the top 4 in canada.

mf

go to telefilm.gc.ca they will have a list of some film fests

A mother has been shot and now her family know she is an assassin with a contract on her head. To prevent her from being killed her family has to become assassins.

have it but can't find it.

some scripts have vo's some don't don't.

my last script has a few, more than i ever used in any other script but there is a point for that also.

plus vo's can be used as part of a narration. don't use too many, the audience still wants to the character/s resolving around the action.

mf

i rented the movie american pysho 2 and there was a lot of VO. not what i expected for an offbeat film.

Everette, if you need a assistance start your own posting

best

mf

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I'll see your screenplay and raise 2

mf

my computer was on the fritz for the past week and had to make use of other people's (actually I borrowed this one off my sister).

if you want panic to set in and miss out on various things best hope your mechanical friend doesn't shun you.

yeesh...

you need some perk on your outline and logline.

is your couple going to stay together and avoid the temptations that come their way? Or are they going to become more urban disturbing and fling their things about.

sounds like the conflict comes from the family and friends.

logline: a happy couple must avoid the temptations of being pursued by others to achieve the american (canadian) dream.

mf

this is from Everette:

This is my first time posting on this site. I have struggled to come up with a logline that captures the essence of my screenplay. I know this is too long. I would appreciate any help you can give me. * Frank Glen, a grief stricken journalist, who has lost his wife three years before to cancer, has been struggling for months with these recurrent dreams of a train wreck, nightmares which have finally prompted him to see a psychiatrist. After losing his job with a news magazine, he has reluctantly taken an assignment with a Paranormal magazine to write a story about a severely autistic boy named Jonathan. Abandoned by his father to an institution after his mother’s death, Jonathan has been brought by a neurophysician to Columbia Presbyterian Hospital in New York to test a new drug protocol. The boy was repeating a series of phrases which seemed to be incoherent mumbling, which earlier with the help of a linguist friend, the doctor realized were in fact backward speech. The boy had been mumbling backwards for months, if not years, “Please someone talk to me.” After opening a path of communication, the doctor soon realized that the boy is in fact a prodigy, and among his many talents, including a keen intellect, he possesses what seem like supernatural abilities to sense things about people and possibly to even see into both the future and the past. The central action of the screenplay follows Frank’s deepening involvement with Jonathan, with whom he finally bonds. Jonathan helps him to come to terms with his grief and to understand the meaning of his dreams.

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good for you, keep up the film work.

mf

what the heck takes three large batteries besides a electric car?

that's ten bucks a page, now ante up or fold your play.

mf

i got 50 hits without a bite so far. e ow.

mf

Dear screenwriting gangsters:

Hello, I am approaching a TV boroadcaster to see if I can get development costs to write 13, 1 hour drama episodes for possible production in 2 years. Since I am a member of small screenwriting group where I live I will probably hire on some the writers that that I mingle with.

How much would you say would be a reasonable cost to ask for per script. That's if they like my concept. I do have a spec script already written and it will have to changed.

Do you think 5000 per script would be too much. With that kind of money I would have to pay my other writers, but on a hired basis for now. Any numbers you give up you might think of. I am based out of Canada so our money might be a little lower than what the Americans have to offer.

mf

that is not screenplay formatting but it is good. I like those twin islands in the ocean you made.

how to break writer's block. Please follow these steps.

1. go find a nice of block of wood.

2. get yourself a nice felt pen for writing

3. write the word "writer's" on the block of wood.

4. get in your vehicle and go to the nearest tool store and buy an axe.

5. when you get home approach the block of wood with the word 'writer's' written on it.

6. get really friggin upset and attack the writer's block with your axe and hack it up till you can't see the word anymore and the block of wood is nothing but shavings.

That is how you get rid of writer's block.

thank you :)

f#*@ anyways

thanks for the advice, and I will get my proposal out to see if they like the idea. Basically, I want to write the scripts first for one year and then try to get it to production in the second year.

****Orlando*** I might be asking you for a resume so that I can present my proposal to my sources. I would be interested in having you on board as writer if I am successful.***

mf

okay, I'm going for it, but, AHHHHHH, I had pickep up a play with so many camera directions and cut to's. AHHHHHHHHHHHHH, I stand it.

Dear Screenplay Writers,

Let the producer and director read the script and let them set up the shots. And don't use action phases with the word 'we' to start off. Ex: we see the room has some boxes and crates lying about. "who in the heck is 'we.'

I hope I get through this screenplay.

I got the price at $ 12,900 per 1 hour script from the writers guild of Canada.

I still have to pitch my idea even though I have an outline with characters and a spec script. I will email the gentleman of the tv station since I met him in person. I know he won't get back to me but I know he will read my email. This way he will to look for it and it will not be set aside or hidden by his associates.

I have thought of Steve but he is so far away, not saying Manitoba is close either.

I am still on my sisters computer which is making things somewhat difficult to things.

did she find any sinks?

mf

Try this one on.

"An all american couple are planning to add a new addition to their family until an old friend calls upon them and causes havoc."

mf

after trying to read a script from Triggerstreet with cut to's, camera directions, the word 'pause' written in almost every piece of dialouge and after each sentence, not to sure if I want to ever read a script again. I couldn't even finish the script, had to pass on it. Didn't give it an evalution. Took on another that had a Momemto theme (try reading a script like that, woof).

I lost my formatting software, that's probably why things don't look pretty. It was a 58 pager at one time.

There is a small flaw. I have to rethink over my main character's situation again and see how it can coincide with her other characters.

I am getting demon images in my head but I need how to know they will fit in.

sounds like some great stories could come out of this. and some scary ones too, eeeee.

mf

don't know, maybe the others could help you. I imagine it would be an open agenda.

mf

Steve, don't treat your wife like a piece of meat, but if she's that good exceptions can be made.

mf.

i must of made a mistake somehow when i submitted my script, it's under pending still. hopefully it will get upfront. I am expecting good and bad reviews since this is the norm. :)

mf

will take a look at the tvwriter thingy.

proposal is gone out today 25th

I'm trying to get 13 episodes to start for a trial basis. If lucky then another 13 then I will have a set for television for one year. I am hoping to reach for a 3 to 5 year continuum on TV with this drama. I hope the gentleman at the broadcast station goes for the idea.

It's not a big time broadcaster, just a wee one that is in growth.

mf

http://web.ukonline.co.uk/ianto/index.htm

mf

yes, I don't know how the CRTC gets involved. I might have to do some internet research on them.

mf

I will go for the writer-for-hire basis if I achieve the funding. Hire writers to assist me writing scripts. But first the money then the real talk.

mf

not saying I'm the perfect reader myself, but I do try to offer advise by not going to overboard with opinion.

I saw one review where the reader said he would take the movie out of his vcr and burn after ten minutes.

this is no way how to critique screenplays. Offer advice that someone won't take to offensively. Not saying that we can take any critcal advice with being hurt. :)

I just got my first review...why you rotten b... joking of course.

mf

if anyone uses please tell me how to use it, I don't like reading rules.

mf

I have the opportunity by using ...whorepresents.com to send a script Kathleen Robertson's way. I just gave a call to the agent and told who I was and what I heard recently about her in an article in a local paper.

the first time I went to that site I thought the bad W word first. Yeesh.

Steve, you giving any numbers on how much you're getting from your sale of your script.

mf

take your chance on triggerstreet.com... at least your reviews will be quicker than zoetrope.com and you don't have to read 4 screenplays.

mf

to each their own on triggerstreet. Some will like your dialogue and some won't and it doesn't matter what subject it's on. As you can see on the new posting on triggerstreet people are really lambasting(typo) others with their critiques. There are bitter writers on the website stating their darkess opinions whether the play is good or not.

I have had some people critique my screenplay with some positive and negative notes. I took the chance on putting my play on the website. You see, I like the way I wrote it, it was to be humorous, offbeat, and dramatic. Some will like some won't.

It's tough to handle criticism. We get many good reviews but it's takes only one to bring us down and fret and worry. Get your play into some competitions and best of luck.

mf

how much money did you get from you know who. I won't tell no one on hear. you can type it out on here and I won't say a word to anyone. (haha)

mf.

how about sasquatch against terrorists.

mf

triggerstreet does have some good writers and people still honing their skills. I was there once and I am always honing my skills. If I keep on writing I'll never stop learning or upgrading. Goodluck.

mf.

that's and oldie, but doing a research on the net should give you something. I think it has a budget of 325'000 to work with and doing well

best

mf

i like miriams idea. snow bunnies against terrorists.

good for you, it's a chip off the old block.

kur-e-os-e-ty. and I did win a spelling bee at one time when I was younger, how I ever achieved that is beyond my recognition. I was such a daydreamer in school once I became a black sheep. baa baa. or was that waa waa.

mf

and it still boils down to you still gotta work so you don't get bored. It's just Steve is carving happy faces onto the furniture he makes now. Heck, he can make a his own coffee table and put the engrave the first page of on the top.

mf

it's those concepts that draw the young male and a few old ones. Is it on video yet?

before I become bitter, withdrawn, reclusive, angered and etc...wish you all the best for the holiday season and upcoming new year. That's it, I'm not saying any more. grrr, grrrrr.

mf

i see your all tongue Craig, wonder if that makes the opposite sex smile.

mf

use the numbers or the words? numbers take up less room which can be a good and bad thing, or doesn't really matter.

I think I will use both in writing. 758 dollars looks better than seven hundred and fifty eight dollars.

in a good way I mean :)

thanks

mf

www.whorepresents.com

that might help you out. give them a call. doesn't hurt, I made a call and just recently sent out a script to Kathleen Robertson agent. Kathleen was on 90210 and the recently cancelled show 'girls club'

got the fingers and toes crossed.

mf

never had an agent. if I could get one that would be great.

mf

Like I said, the W word. :)

you're insane. How do you mean by photocopy on this site or am I insane.

mf

give steve 300 and he might cast you as a bunny.

mf

Steve, also, has the opportunity to go and teach screenwriting classes now with his credentials. Another job to work around.

learningannex.com might need your talents, that's if you want to step out.

mf

if the company's are keeping it on speculation for now why not wait it out, just keep them updated on how your script is doing by dropping them a note occassionally.

mf

i'd i can play bush, i have an acting background. plus there are plenty of leaves on the ground i stick to myself to play that bush.

mf

ah, come on, can't you wait another 4-5 years.

use the telephone highway if you can.

I got a request for a western I wrote. But I got this request for being a member of Women in Film and TV. It was a posting in a post that was posted not on a post but a post in a email posted newsletter. I sent her a query now I have the waiver form and script ready to go.

mf.

there's Faith in Faith and she is of faithfully dedicated to writing now that is faithful, good luck Faith.

mf

I agree on no faxes.

mf

the good thing (not saying that I got anything luck out of it) is that you submit your idea and he will tell if you if their company is interested or not.

mf

turn your scripts into short stories if you can. plus there should be books at a bookstore that will tell of you different literary markets to submit your material to.

mf

did you use whorepresents.com ?

mf

I've chatted with Jessica, if you have a script you have to come to her with money of a million or so, or an attached actor or actress that has some little or big fame who is interested in your script.

She is an executive producer and is for real.

i got an email stating i didn't make the short film cut. Letters should be arriving in your mailbox soon. (back to the drawing board). more edit and filming to do. :(

mf

You're getting the rollercoaster reviews like me. But that is okay, I am changing my script as I review them. I think I have it where I want it. NOT.

Never is there a final draft or is there?

I tell you some those reviewers/writers on triggerstreet are borderline psychotic and very angry.

mf

she might of changed her mind? When is the last time to talked to her.

mf

some the writers that are on triggerstreet are probably spread out on screenwriting chat boards. I haven't been to all, but I've seen some pretty nasty things said, not saying that moviebytes has had it's few squabbles, but usually people resolve their attitudes or forget about it and move on.

Yup, hard to control your upsettingness (new word?) after someone gives you a bad critique or offers you advice on changes. grrr grrrr, I mean prrr prrrRRRRRRRRR

mf

to date I have sent my lastest script to Gersh Agency for Katleen Roberston to read (hope she reads it) Plus I sent it out to the head script writer in Telefilm.gc.ca, the person will give you feedback on it and if he likes it he will give an okay and you probably can go search out a producer and possibly make use of their money (I mean the taxpayers money). And, I got a request for my dark dark Western Script with cowboys, Indians, priets, and hookers, and alcoholics. Hope they lady likes it.

Like I say, I wish everyone on moviebytes good luck on getting their scripts sold.

mf

yup

new year coming, thanks to all for being on here through our good and bad times. I read informative stuff, I read funny stuff, I read stuff that wasn't related to writing or was it? Dealing with emotions on here it does go towards writing even though sometimes we were off subject.

Steve and Miriam prove that it can be done. It doesn't happen overnight and it can take years and you better expect to never get anywhere.

For some satisfaction change your play into a short story or something and try get it published into something. At least you get some kind of satisfaction out of it.

best on the new year.

i have a couple of girls in last script who'd want to talk to your friend, of course it would have to be in the boxing ring.

mf

would you want me to help you wit a rewrite on your script? hahaha...

mf

and then buy butt master from susan summers.

mf

I will read your script 'prodigy' and critique it, if you don't like my opinion please don't come on this board and lambaste me with bad comments and forgetting what class is.

I've had people read my script and critique it with their opinions with out me blowing up. This is something I can handle. think you can.

and don't tell me about how people like your script after this posting. This is not what I want to hear. I told this same response to the person I read but, yet, the person had to go about on how people liked it. When I was done. wuuf. the persons mind became bullets at my personality and writing ability.

over and out.

mf

lightly speaking of course. :)

I am reading "prodigy" over the next day or to. I might read yours. If you haven't read anything try the "Ultimate Goddess" I know it has a few typos but I let you decide the final opinion.

friday 13th will be the day I find out if I get an option on my Western script I submitted to this lady. Isn't that a special day.

mf.

weel, maybe I'd gained from the experience. hehe...okay'd pardner. It might hurt meed a bit, but me cool. Not saying the person is bad, just had to let off some steam.

prodigy might take longer to read then expected, maybe another day or two when my mind is set.

best to all writers.

mf

storekeeper for me, or female proprietor. I don't know. I give up.

mf

A man searches for a madman with the power of a God that begins before the dawn of man and ends long after the Earth’s demise.

It liked your logline but just tightened it up with some word deletions. (try to keep your logline close to 25 words)

mf

I have some scenes in my scipts that are up 5 pages and longer.

2 pages would make a fast choppy story and a lot of different scenes to used.

think your teacher is wrong.

mf

basically when one goes into one and the optioner manages to find a third party to produce the script. Does the writer only get what writers guild states as a normal fee and that is it.

Does the writer get anykind of money if the screenplay is successful financially? Many writers have been short changed by this matter I believe and don't get enough credit for what they have done. If a movie makes 25 million why should the writer only end up a script fee of 15 thousand or whatever price the person recieved?

A good movie can make money beyond years time sometimes.

Not going for it. Not worth it. I have an interested executive producer who read my script and has a producer to shop it to.but this is canada and if I give all rights on this play all I get is minimun writers fee set by the writers guild of canada, that would probably around 14 thou. yikes, I think i will pass on. And the option fee, well, you don't want to hear, it would make tears in your eyes.

mf

if you want some reviews then put it up.

mf

i didn't sign up for it. If I did I would relay the messages through here. (gotta save us some costs)

mf

was the person male or female. I've let a couple of people read my script, but one never got back to me either on whether he read it or not. but i know who that is.

mf

never been to film fest. best go. maybe you might even make some contacts for your scripts. take business cards with a synopsis of your story.

you should be getting them all ready Orlando. I think. the newsletters I get now don't have the companys addressess anymore.

mf

no one is going to steal your play. I would have to claim myself somewhat weird. many rules out there for writers and no one wants to get sued and end further in a rut.

moviebytes has a good crowd.

mf

good to see you back and have a good holiday season d.g.

mf

wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...

I've had a change of heart on my option Canadian style. Don't expect big $$ eyes, but there is standard agreement with producers and writers guild. Not saying each will like each others agreement.

I western script has been picked by a executive producer. Executive producer is not the same as producer. If you don't know Executive producer is: an investor and gets a film credit. Producer is the one who gets the talent begin and in front of the camera.

If your in Canada don't expect the big bucks for your script. The price of a feature (minimum) under writers guild of canuck-eh is around 36 thou (maybe that's not too bad since it's better than nothing). And if you can get other incentives the best to you.

a canadian option my might get you a nice second-hand suit. So how much was my option? (200) yup. that's canada. but I held out and got 500. See, the executive producer likes the script and has an interested party to look at it. So I will have to take it. I can, now, say my screenplay has been optioned.

the door is slightly open for changes in contract. now I hope the producers like my company.

take this in heart canadian writers. do you hold onto your scripts for years or get it out there for people to see.

I guess I am at the point where I can offer screenwriting classes now.

I am sadly happy. :( wahhh hahaha :)

mf

they won't get back to you if they are not interested. but they do take queries or they wouldn't post their message. If they like then then they get back to you (i think)

mf

the lesson came from books, the ideas from life and imagination, and the odd noteworthy on here by reading other postings even it wasn't related to my query. The lady thinks people will be fighting over it. No good to me when all are dead or injuried. time will tell. Gotta keep cool and patient and expect the unexpected.

mf

steve, the winters are over are getting weird. they use be long, cold, and with alot of snow. somehow it's forgetting to snow over here like it use. I kinda like it but it creates havoc for farmers in the spring and summer. it's amazing how snow can cause mass distruction when it's not here. its' 20-20 on snow for me.

mf

my motto is better than the actors one.

"break a lead," freddie

mf

all the writers of screenplays are the same ones at zoetrope, triggerstreet, few here but(not many), and who know where else? The systems of zoetrope and triggerstreet are weak but there are a few good people in there that offer good comments on your script whether is viable or not. This is what you have to subject to yourself to. Think you can do it without becoming a turncoat after a bad review. I am leary of reviewing some peoples scripts because you think they are cool to your reviews by can quickly can be turncoats and attack you from behind. If you go on triggerstreet expect the good and bad.

mf

A noteworthy by Marcel:

Dear fellow writers,

When it comes to selling or optioning a script must one take on a lower price sometimes because not all companies have millions of dollars to spend.

If one to watch a Movie of the Week on the tube, there budget might be a few million, so I wouldn't think they would give you a hundred thousand to purchase it. You just might get the Guild's rater whether you are Canadian or American. So check out the guild sites to see what your script might be worth at its minimun buyable buyout.

In addition, make sure to try and get some royalities if your screenplay turns out to be a success.

Could you elaborate more on this Mr. moneybags (Steve C), and give us some more information if you have any.

And Steve I am awaiting for you to send me a christmas card. Preferably with money in the inside of the card.

mf

Instead of putting up 300 dollars or more put your money put your script into some contests and see how things go. Possibly someone might read it on hear. You have zoetrope.com and triggerstreet.com to get some free feedback on it. This should help you along. Possibly someone might read it on here. (cutting costs)

mf

I have know idea how a script doctor would promote your script. I would be leary of that.

Even I could promote your script if you pay me money. I'll just send out some email queries, no guarantees I will get you anything, but at least I tried. Wanna take the chance? :) Something to think about? Do you think a script doctor will really get you that sell?

mf

Hah! I was going to mention something like this, it's gotta be coincidental.

This is what I did, I submitted my screenplay to the writers guild of canada on friday (or was that thursday). I took my 100 page play and put my new courier font of 12 to 1.5 font. That made my script 12 pages long with a full story. Sure you need a microscope to read the writing, but this way no one at the guild would want to read my play. Plus, I am saving them additional room. If you think 1.5 is to small try 2.5 or something. That will reduce some costs. Heck, I submitted my play in a regular envelope (just had to fold it). But I did have a regular font for contact stuff.

mf

I'm too'd drunk to talked to use guys...happy news beers and see ya's next yearzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

mf

anyone want to talk to my kitty...it's smart.

mf

are you sure you used www.whorepresents properly? :)

this is what i got on him. this is his agent. there was more also

Ed Limato Agent ICM 8942 Wilshire Blvd. Beverly Hills CA 90211 310/550-4000

mf

but now she can make changes to the script. guess one better get use to that.

mf

occassionally we will shoot out the odd line that someone might get offended by, but in reality we are not trying to hurt anyone. It's, just, your dealing with different personalities in here and some come with different words of stating things.

(glad I am not one of them...I believe some one can second that motion...never mind I will do it myself and save the others some time)

mf

not too sure if I thank you for your sympathy, empathy, or support, but either way I am dehydrated from shedding tears into my extra large absorbent paper towels...boo hoo hoo hoo...yes there is such thing as an overactor just as I am an overwriter. Now get me back to my cave with a candle.

mf

i was acting. couldn't you tell. didn't you feel the emotion coming at you :) ain't i pathetic.

paging rob spence...paging rob spence...you're wanted at the moviebytes front desk my Miriam...paging rob spence

I haven't use AAA writers for a while, but there is a posting on there stating an Oklahoma Native tribe is looking for talent of various sorts.

www.aibntv.com

Allen, I think they might be looking for writers and people with experience in entertainment production. Not to sure if they're taking pitches but I could be wrong.

Send them your artist's resume. The person to contact is Jack McGhee (he's on that site). I would give him an email and a see what's up.

mf

Allen, I think they might be looking for writers and people with experience in entertainment production. Not to sure if they're taking pitches but I could be wrong.

Send them your artist's resume. The person to contact is Jack McGhee (he's on that site). I would give him an email and a see what's up.

mf

oh, yah. 'tip toe through the tulips.'

Or was that 'tepee toe through the bullets.'

I never could understand most words sung on a radio.

mf

i think you better start writing your own movie critiques and sending them out to indie newsletters. that outta fill some those outta money scenarios.

:)

mf

I quit writing for a bit myself. I just go over my old stuff and peer at possibly make changes to it. I am waiting upon some big decisions on possible funding proposals I sent out to try and get a broadcast license to bring a fitness show onto tv for the next fall season from a small but growing station. Plus I wait their decisions if I can broadcast license and partial funding to begin shooting a low budget film and a broadcast license/development money to start writing 13 or 26 script for a drama series I have conceived with a speculative script.

as you can see I am in a lot of stress. Plus I've had an wicked back and hip injury for over a year that has partially gone away.

this is why I can come to moviebytes often.

but i do have a war script i can't find on the computer. I might have to rewrite it, good thing I have a hard copy. I might just get started on it today. don't feel sad or feel stress for me. I am slugging it along and will be okay.

:)

i believe steve will be in the next centerfold of screewriters magazine. you might see his bare naked hand holding a pencil because he is a tad reclusive and shy.

mf

the advice has been good and informative of course.

thanks

mf

read the previous postings on the "canadian option and american option." Don't think hundreds of thousands. Sometimes you might have to consider much less.

I have recently optioned out my script, and was given 500 dollars up front for 1 year with a clause to option after after expiry date. If you do this you can't shop it around to other interested parties. If the executive producer manages to sell the script one can be looking at a minimum writers guild fee. Here in Canada for a feature is around 36 thou.

Plus, they can make alterations to the script. An option it would look good on your artist's resume.

mf

looks like a lot of these sites are going to start popping up and people will access them as I see. Is it good or bad. If your play gets good exposure then it's good. If one is strongly computer literate why not start your own.

Possibly Fred M might have join the foray in the near future.

mf

it's a tough decision for sure, when the lady read my script and contacted me after her price was 200 dollars. She had already optioned two other writers for that price. I didn't email for her a few days but she phoned me when I didn't expect it, not saying I was holding out, and offered me 500.

Reading what Randy has written is good advice but one cannot be sure if a company can give up 10thousand option, but if you can get a price like that then all the best to you. Sure there is concern about numbers and this is a challenging step to take. 2000thou sounds good. Go to your meeting as Randy stated and think things over. It's high stakes involved.

If you can let them make the first money. Don't let them coerce you into making a first price, let them shoot a number first.

In the previous posting on this situation some people mentioned that some people don't even offer money for options even if they're interesteded you script.

best of luck

mf

yes, it's true what Miriam said about attorneys and other. Are you sure you can afford these people without them taking your money from your option.

Make sure you script is registered.

the first ten (sort of) are the introduction of mostly main characters with an objective that is leading to somewhere. It should tell you if it's going to be a comedy-drama-horror-blah blah--these are my opinions. other additional will come from others person's on here

mf

here is my random theory on conversion from novel to screenplay. If you have a 300 page novel give it a 3 to 1 ratio to screenplay. 3 pages equals 1 page of screenwriting.

I made this up so it's all theory.

My option comes from a lady who is her growth stages as an executive producer. We all start somewhere. Do you have the contracts on hand to look over first? Does the company have a business card, a website.

I was sent a secondary option contract to go over before I was sent the final one. Can this company send you a copy by email for you to read or show us?

Eventually after all the advice we give you will have to step forward and weigh out your options on a yes or no. It's for one year, can you part with your script for that long?

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I do have to agree with that last comment. My last play didn't start forming until the 15th page or so.

The biggest thing is that the audience will never pick these things up. They just want to see a movie. They don't discuss character after the film. some wouldn't even know it there is a middle act. Before I started writing I didn't know about that stuff either.

Who wrote the book on screenwriting. Probably some distant playwright from 1000 of years ago. It's just live plays were able to come film. I can imagine the three thing came from doing live plays. The in-betweens were for breaks. Just as in theatre today. But now mostly it's 2 acts.

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1. Not enough is revealed about the characters and their emotions. 2. The characters are inconsistent with their behaviors. 3. The narrative event happens late in the scenes. 4. What the story is about is not clearly defined or defined too late in the script. 5. The environment of the story is not set up quickly enough. 6. The main character is too passive. 7. Scenes happen without any relationship to other events in the story. 8. The crises and events are not surprising enough. 9. Too much dialog used to explain what the story is about. 10. Too many clichés in the script.

Hah, and that too.

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this is what happening since I put my script up for option...

The executive producer is adding some changes to the script, not a lot though. One scene from the back is moving to the front. She's giving me suggestions--should my antagonist have more of stronger relationship with one his followers. These are things she wants to change and I think some can be changed but not all. The odd change of dialogue I might have to use to relate my characters together.

This is what can be expected when you're in an option. Not really much is being changed. The script, she says, will be put in the hands of a producer to read on January 15th. I hope they like what the read.

Take this in hand if your an optioned writer or going to be.

mf

the second sequel to Tremors wasn't too bad. It's always good to have a first show. The second follow up can be tough.

I might make that way if I get hired on with aibntv out of Oklahoma. I will need one those coloured cards, though to make across the border or get status like Charlie Smoke. A native that can't live in Canada or the United States.

phone dialogue can be creative, using one voice is effective depending how you write it. One can talk on a phone in question form and the audience will respond to it with there own internal mind dialogue. but I think we all know that.

hi bill, who are things going in jail. Not good you say, you dropped some soap and what happened? (I wonder what the audience visual percerption and emotion be on that one)Oh, Bill, how nasty, and what were you doing in a women correctional instituion?

fly...hmm...how smart...the 3rd was so so to me. but that is my judgement.

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Ellum's comment was good one for me.

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She's a ten and a screenwriter and she meet's tall dark and handsome who's drug habit makes her number begin to falter along with her goals.

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If I could afford it I would do it and I think it would be a great outlet for screenwriters. But maybe if Fred has enough money rounded up he can pull it off.

I have the theory but can't do the practical.

1. A nice glass trophy shaped of a page with the words 'FADE IN and FADE OUT.

2. best script award

3. best antagonist character

4. best protagonist character

5. best drama

6. best comedy

7. best horror

8. best sci-fi

9. best secondary character

There are many more but one has to keep it limited also.

one has to be fair too and keep international, there are many good scripts out there that we never see because of their foreign language.

This way the writer is adorned and people get to see them and not the actor, producers, and directors.

take it away Fred. If I could I would. It could be something great.

It would need a name that trophy.

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too late for me.

MONTAGE of engineer working: reading plans, driving truck, eating donut, talking to others, picking up soap, getting tissues for Johnny.

another way to write it and keep it tightened on your script.

my western trailer. I have a rock skipping across some water and then the water turns red for blood.

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my man Flinn whose book I read from has no letters to line up his montages. He says he has read thousands upon thousands scripts and has been a producer on Star Trek 6.

can anyone top that?

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Yes, it is true. NBC is coming to my city on the 18th looking for people with somekind of Native Background. They are looking for actors and writers.

This should be a tense moment and hopefully a good opportunity for exposure upon thy self.

I think I will have 5 minutes in front of the people. I will be taking 4 monologues to read from some of script I have written. I will act them out accordingly to how I wrote them. Let one hope they have an interest.

1. WWII drama 2. Western 3. Present day drama 4. (proposed)television drama

they will be traveling in the states to. here is the contact for you Native or part Native writers.

www.fourdirectionstalent.com

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three page lay out with a 3D pop up image. What next???

Snow Bunnies Take Out Terrorists

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we need about 2 feet of your snow where I am

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What? the address is out there, not in here. hahaha....

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I was thinking of entering but at canadian exchange rate, nopers. too high

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mmmmm...nothing wrong with a piece of humble pie occasionally and a dry tonic chaser. Taste and learn and there's always cause for speclution. eh'men

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I see Moondance becoming a major film festival within a few years, I would like to enter one their contests but if I take out what I have in my wallet I might float away. My wallet is my paper weight. Not saying I'm a small person.

Maybe I might try the lowest entry, maybe. (short stories instead of screenplay)

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MONTAGED SCENES of peope doing things and talking.

PILOT in a helicopter.

MAN on a speedboat.

PEOPLE on an oil-rig.

DIVER under the water.

MARY in a cheerleading outfit.

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90-120 is good, pushing beyond one-twenty, hmmm...My last play was 114 pages. eee. that was long.

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Witty, intelligent, and gorgeous screenwriter Isabella Diaz has it all – a nice set of wheels, a chic San Francisco flat, three best friends, and a hit first screenplay that gleaned rave reviews from critics and the general public. Unfortunately a case of writer’s block has stymied creative juices that keep Isabella from being able to write her next script. Fear, anxiety, and insecurity begins to makes her think she's just a one-hit wonder.

Looking for motivation on her emotional rollercoaster Isabella meets an almost perfect man, Derrick “Wash” Washington. Derrick, is a handsome struggling musician who produces a bumping blend of dance and hip-hop music beats that Iasbella loves. Derrick brings to Isabella his seven lost years of trial and tribulations and a past that leads to a lose of someone's future.

(something like that)

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wayda break a lead

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hah...Orlando in drag?, hummm...I wonder if she can pull it off from being a woman to being a woman. That has to be twist in the plot.

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You know you are in Canada when your are dressly warmed to go to work and when you get there you hang up your coat and take off your boots only to find you only have longjohns on.

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Good to see what you're doing, and best of luck. We are mostly writers in here and not producers.

I like the idea about approaching a drama teacher and see if you can move it to live stage.

As for teen screenwriting sites. I probably wouldn't think there are any out there for that niche but you might come across a writer or two that might be in your age group.

Just put a query out looking for others around your age group, and be safe.

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I've been topped. I agree a montage should be about specified character or scene.

I used this in my boxing script to move it along. Plus I got some ideas by reading the Rocky script.

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Jane doe is sedated and her body becomes relaxed, her eyes begin to close and her relaxed mind conjuures up several PAST IMAGES.

JANE'S VISIONS

her mother shooting herself

Her doting father

Her abusive aunt

An kiss from her ex-lover

the DREAM comes to an end and Jane awakes from her state SCREAMING.

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oh mandy, please don't you cry for me, I come Los Angeles with a banjo on me knee.

I've have my doubts for working for someone for free. This is one thing one has to watch out for as people query for writers to write their big hit, but if you do then you'll have another script in your background.

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miriam is probably focused on her script rewrite, once she is done she'll be back. One has to rest a mind occassionally from moviebytes. I know I have a film to re-edit so I am to learn adobe premiere 6 for editing my digital film. I had others doing it previously but why pay others when I can teach myself.

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www.ucmore.com , this is added browser you can put to your computer, it takes up another bar, but it leads you to similiar sites with doing a heavy search. And it takes you to place that have good info. (I like it not saying you will)

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maybe your eyes on the floor can give you some new point of views on how to write a scene.

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it varies for me, I listen to classical to some hiphop. Enigma is good for me also.

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I've had small successes from poetry to screenwriting. Being able to put some of short script to film is also an added bonus. I have an award from one of them plus a distributor for my short film.

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Dear Steve,

blah blah blah. Now the serious stuff. With all that American money I hope you have yourself a nice 60 inch tv, I'd hate to say that in centimeters since it stills confuse me.

mf

heart wise take tampa, money rise take oakland. 35 - 13, oakland

do you think you could fly me in at your cost? I will come with a smile.

mf

try moondance, there deadline is the 31st but give them an email and tell them I would like to enter your contest but your fees are a tad to high.

they might give you a discount. I tried and got a lower fee, unfortunately I gotta be penny pincher for the moment due to injury called hiphopitis.

mf

wiggle, giggle, jiggle, sexuual content in a screenplay. If it has to be done then do it. put it in the right hands when you have it read.

Is this sort a based around you? then let me read it. hahaha

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i figured you locked out the dog because your scenes got to noisy and expressive.

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haha...I liked paula's answer, it's too realistic.

I find taking some my peronality and going with it in writing and trying to break it is a challenge. I might be funny on here (if I am...hahaha) but in the real world I am humble and a serious thinker. I do get spurts of laughther from others as like to feed off others spoken words. This prolonged injury has really taken a dramatic affect on me over the past year or so.

but tis okay it has give me ideas to work with and now I have an interested distributor for a 1 minute continious educational program I have conceived. It will be, hopefully, a low but secondary income (I will take high money of course).

As you see I try to dwell in many things, but sometimes you drown in your well of dwellings and that can't sit to well sometimes. Oh well.

mf

they'll read your play and give you a yes or no. Just many on here I have tried. (sorry but your story doesn't fit into our criteria, we wish you best of luck)

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i got my plubu-ingrow-hygenic turbopersonality shrinker almost working. send the pigeon i should be a small guy before it gets here

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I've quit writing screenplays for now. I am focusing on trying to get a couple of them produced. I am waiting for a broadcast license from a television station for one of them. The yes or no should be here around mid February.

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Here you go. (give me call at 555-5555 and we can talk it over while you write it)

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you should be thinking distributors of films if you have a film all ready produced. Check out any major film festivals happening around your area. Make your contacts there or search the internet.

(that's if your film is produced)

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I take and read the comments with a fine tablespoon of sugar most of times. I think we all know the situation from beginning to end. I don't mind being refreshed occassionally on things one tends to let slip by. (what was that again?).

Dear Steve,

Steve, I know you have your real job to attend to, I was wondering if you're thinking about teaching some screenwriting classes in the future now that you been optioned.

And, how goes with your optioned film, is it going to be shot or what?

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hopefully it sells, 'break a lead'

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I am working on a educational program for kids. It's translating various languages to Native Languages. It took some imagination for sure and research and I have my characters on hand with a background. I have a couple of peole who can speak English, French, and one knows Spanish. Myself, am learning to translate the words into othe language I never spoke before. But it is fun learning and old lost tongue. I have an interested distributor for it. I can see a small success with it but not huge. If I make any money off this concept it will be going towards on my low budget scripts.

I should be able to get out a few words to my distributor by the end of February and hopefully be on to a small financial success.

mf

I've seen personal internal wars, I've seen family wars, I've seen bar wars, I've see car wars on the streets, I've seen war on television, I've read of war in books from centuries upon centuries. We want this we want that and sometimes we don't get it and that can make one unhappy.

Are you happy about the gas prices?

Can I say war will come to an end. I can't see it but would like to see it come to an end. We establish our own circles and some people are invited in some stay on the boundaries and some are not welcome.

Our worst enemy is the emotion anger and it will always be with us.

Not a positive concept, but what can one do.

mf

who wants to play with our canadian tugboat. toot toot. being sarcastic of course. soldiers do us fine here in our country, but I see there can be some contraversy at times where the lower position soldiers become the scapegoats to dirty deeds done from higher up and politicains.

they have my play. what can i say.

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ni a hi ya hay a ho a ni a ...ho ho ho knee aye may I go out to see the buffalo roam ee a may...shut up marcel :)

sometimes I wonder I am the schizo and not my brother...nurse!!!!!!!!!!!

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Hello, here's the scoop. There isn't two scoops in raisan bran. Now for the milky deatails with added sugar.

My objectives

A) I need mostly unsuccessful screenwriters (with the option writers I will contact personally to see if they are interested)

1. I need the reasons why you write, how many plays you have written

2. The pros and cons of it

3. the hopes, failures, and frustations

4. a brief outline of "one" play with title, and the first page.

5. what do you want to get from this play

6. have you won any contests

7. I will need a picture (email printout)of you plus a waiver form and your name and address as your name will be mentioned with your screenplay and email address

8. I want a bit of your personality (introvert or extrovert?). I don't want really angry people (or people on the verge of mental death, I don't want to make this announcement on tape if things are a success). I know we have a bitterness because of what goes on, but I must have a limit.

I can't take a lot of people, but I will film your picture as I get an actor to read out your bio and outline.

I will locate screenwriters in my area to film live.

interested please contact me. don't be upset if i don't choose you, and don't expect quick results. If the documentary does get complete I will get you a vhs copy.

I might use around 3-5 people.

contact me, marcel wordsallowmotion@hotmail.com

(use the secret word "documentary")you should have been a regular on moviebytes rants and raves for at least 6 months. I guarantee no successes

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something like that, you can even have a low budget option like I have.

not saying that none of you are not skilled at what you're doing. I want some hopeful-atics.

I just don't want to do add a person who put his life on stop like the person did last year.

I do have one interested party so far :)

it's not going to be easy, but I know I can pull it off. Will it be a 23 minute film or 44 minute film. "Why these numbers, Marcel, you ask to yourself" Why, why. Well I'll tell you why. 23 minutes is half hour program with commericals as is 44 is to an hour for TV. But I know all you writers knew that, you'are all so smart, keen, neato, and cool. :)

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come here, let me give you a big hug

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does one actually need to have an action ending after the dialogue. I noticed one of my older plays that some parts ended in dialogue and then jumped to slug line.

I think I befaffilize myself sometimes and forget to do or do things I don't or should be doing. Do you think I need a doctor or novelist to help me through these hard and confusing shituations

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i recently watched 'the recruit' and noticed a scene could end directly in dialogue because there was no action to taken after. maybe this is why one of older plays was like this. i must of came across the information sometime when i was doing my research or i wouldn't of done it.

moviebytes feeds us information when we need it and ask for it.

but one has noticed it's for venting out in anger, happiness, and other scenarios. even when we rant and rave there is opportunity that someone might take that subject at matter and think about writing a play.

not all is perfect but sometimes this is where we can get things off of our minds and unload some feelings and stories.

sure it can be somewhat hard not to read all the postings but one must think over, should i or shouldn't i be part of this posting.

mf

i tell ya, you can't hide with the internet. you can find anyone which is somewhat spooky. even if you have one small success or comment that has made it somewhere your name will be found on the internet.

i did a search on my name and 'wow', it was befuddled, better get used to it. eeeee :)

mf

looking to read someones' script on triggerstreet. post on here I will choose.

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Okay, me and brother had to have chuckle on this one. We were watching a Native television station and a question was asked.

Should the U.S. attack Iraq. The census said 85% for. Then another question was asked, should Native people be participants in Iraq war. 95% said no.

that caused for a chuckle. 'once we were warriors'

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I didn't know this was going to end up a war of words. be cool all.

anyones' screenwriting book mention whether a end can be dialogue.

I don't think my book has a topic on that.

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what is HCD, i might want to know.

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can't open 'hopetown' so can you email it me instead. thanks

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sorry, freddie, possibly next time

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FADE OUT.

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Even if you don't think the contest is viable and you end up in some part of the finals it still will count as something towards your artist's resume.

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smile, you're on moviebytes (popparazzi are here)

:)

half are proper, are the other half french? :)))))))))

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that's okay about Veena and Randy. I'm inviting them to a laughing gas convention in the near future.

Reading over my older play, I believe one can end with dialouge. Like I was saying, when I saw 'the recruit' that one scene didn't go any further after all was said.

I think I am beginning I want to know less of screening writing techique.

:)

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and being on here will eat up some valuable time :) it does get addicting and one has to break the habit occassionally

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it might take a week or so to read 'hopetown'.

That's okay if I don't get anything out of it on success. Getting feedback from others is good. Not saying it's all good feedback. I gotta expect some lumps and bruises. But thanks for posting.

mf

unfortunately triggerstreet has put into 'new user' for some reason or another and I can't get out of it. Now I have to read another appointed screenplay or two be break the mode.

I just finished reading 'hopetown' and they won't let me post my review. Yeesh

mf

sometimes a scene without dialogue tells story. Put in a couple to move it along.

mf

i'm getting a chronological headache.

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www.writersguildofcanada.com

i registered my play in courier 1.5 font and got it down to 12 pages. cutting down on snail mail weight costs and plus, hopefully, bulk scripts at the guild

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Let's hope he has somekind of miracle recovery.

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myself, don't read novels. Can't even remember if I ever finished one. The odd Archie comic is worded enough for me. :)

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that's it, if you want dialouge from me I have to take it directly to computer or pen and paper and it flows out. Forget about me telling it you verbally, one to one, I becomed tongued tied.

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We all have petty conflicts occassionally but most of move on and forget the posting that start things in moviebytes. We are emotional characters. Too bad she wasn't part of this group earlier in time but all will be well again. I guess her brief moments on here did bring some new enlightment to her heart.

good stuff

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good luck on your new adventures you perceived before hand Veena.

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the person who optioned my scene play is making me want to pull my hair out with her chances and inquries.

It feels like the film is becoming a doucmentary trying to define details on fictional western locations. How many people cared in the movie 'the unforgiven' where the town was situated? but hopefully all will turn out well.

Any one have any ideas on old western missions that were run by nuns at one time?

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she's wants a strong hint of Canadian flavour (flavor for Americans). I can't say it's a weak point but I need something to hit base with. I no of the missions way down south, but there must of been some up here, just built differently. Not saying that the mission is a big part in my play. It's actually part of about a 2 minute flashback, nuns included.

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if you've been published and you want to take your books to film then possibly you should look for an agent that deals in such endeavours.

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anyone can put an ad in your magazine. How does one know if the play is any good, and how do you tell a excellent writer from a bad one. I have an optioned screenplay, does it make me an excellent writer?

An ad in your magazine makes no guarantees on success. What difference is there in putting your logline on the internet than putting it in your magazine? I think that producers and directors know where to look to if they need a screenplay. There are many out there that have been written.

If your magazine is a success the best to you. Any magazine can say they had a success, even if it's one person. Doesn't mean you can give the next 100 ro 1000 that denouement

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they option it with your money you give them to rewrite. SCAM, I say.

I'm cheap, I did word first with tabs, but then did a search on the internet for software. I purchased 'digiscript' for a low low price. Quite happy with it. Since I have a freeze on writing. In time I would like to try 'simplyscreenplay' which is a free software program.

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addresses, thanks

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i just read an article on him and he does read screenplays. I just gotta figure how to get one to him.

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the writing software is tool for me. Especially when one is doing the dialogue. I dont' have to count the number of words in a line as it jumps me into the next line and keeps a good border.

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I would have to say 'triggerstreet' is becoming a major problem to me with thier user status forums. I don't want to read a lot of screenplays, and I don't want to read screenplays assigned to me. For this reason I can't not get my review up for the screenplay I read called 'hopetown'.

I also noticed that 'hopetown' wasn't on the board anymore. I think I might move over to that other webside called ...helium something.

If 'hopetown' is loaded on that site then I can give your a review.

mf

Actually, I wanted to do a review on 'hopetown' but now I see it was removed. I think 'triggerstreet' is setting their criteria too high about its user forum. I've read around 5 screenplays and still don't hav the opportunity to choose what I want to read. So I will probably leave from there and move onto Helium something. I just have to peer back at a previous posting and get that address someone put up.

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my quote from one of screenplays "Your sick people and I’m here to stop the disease". I had this written long before you almost heard the same line in the Matrix. 'you're a disease and were here to stop you'

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a couple of my short films I wrote, directed, and produced have been seen in the odd film festival and other showcase venues. If you were to type do a name search on me you find out that one can't stay hidden on the internet.

Now is that good thing or bad. Kinda eerie at times but one must take small successes and failures like others who have made the larger jumps to recognition.

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i gotta get my 2 cents in. What is a WMD, or what can it be? Any bomb at anytime can kill and wound numerous people. I consider that something that consumes mass. When I think about it any weapon can cause mass destruction. A knife, a gun, a tank, a car, the list could on depending whose hands it's in and how they use it.

War is not great and will be with us for centuries, whether small or large. Descendants from centuries ago want there countries back and others show resistance.

We don't war but how many watch the U.S. British-Iraq on the tube.

Some of our Canadian troops are along side with the Allies. Now one has be to concerned with our fellow soldiers. Crazy, man, crazy.

Is the reason Bush attacked Iraq because Alquata (typo) contacts or training for them. I would assume Yes. It's about the faltering stock market also. This done by that idiot Bin Label and his associates. But with the faltering stock market I also put blame on Enron and World Com and souring investor interest.

In time things will come around and the war will be over. Do have to worry about more terrorism for the next centuries in our homefront??

Peace all. dogmatic, anyways

what is IMBD...can one get an address

Is it Paramount that is setup as not-for-profit society?

S.H.I.T (saddam hussan is terrorist)???

:)

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I sent out demo tape for my kids educational program to my distributor of my shot films. It's a hope to grasp children and adults to get back in touch with their Indian languages. And not east Indian.

plus I'm having major problems with Adober Premier 6.0 editing program. I have a short film edited but to transfer it back to miniDV cam is not working. I've been at it for over 2 months now. It's totally frustrating. I want to get this short film out to some festivals for a possible showcase.

Plus I have a mini documentary to edit yet. Yeesh. Stupid program anyways.

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:PPPPPPPPPPPPP

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