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Thanks guys for the info.

The script I am looking for is "Changing Lanes"(Ben Afleck, Samuel Jackson).

There have been other(not as important) moveis that I have seen on Sc- Fi, Hallmark, Lifetime networks.

I would add PATIENCE.

There are so many competitions out there, and with many of the writers on a limtied budget, we can be very picky.

The ones that are successful are the ones with a great reputation- great readers, great sponsors, reputable produc. co's who pay attention and of course sales.

It'll take time but good good luck.

PS.

Communication from the contest coordinator(you) is also important. I would learn/pay heed to how Jennifer Berg from Page Awards works. Ask anybody, she is cleary above the rest when it comes to communications.

Thanks Terri.

No I don't live in LA but in Phoenix metro. Haven't had a chance to travel in the past 5 yrs.

I checked the big sites for the script but must have missed the smaller sites.

Don

I believe one is taking a "crap shoot" by selling ANY script right now. You have to really ask yourself, "Is it really worth it, considering what is at stake at the end?"

I know this is non WGA, but in my last job, I was a member of a very powerful union. Unions have members who are very hard liners and can/will hold deep seeded grudges for a very long time. Especially when they're out there five days a week, regardless of weather, walking the lines.

I was not surprised at the previous post of where it took someone ten years to join because of what they did.

It may seem beneficial now, but in the long run it might just literally bite you in the ass.

I too have seen this verbage before and have signed the release. With so many ideas out there(and it sounds like they have wannabe screenwriters on their staff), they need to protect themselves. So this was no surprise to me.

Many of the writers here protect themselves by both registering it with the WGA, and copyrighting it before they send it out. A detailed record of it is also logged. Some have also sent it requiring a signature- another record.

I'm no lawyer but I would not waste time in trying to change their wording in their release agreement. Don't be surprised if their respone is, "If you don't like it, don't sign it." Remember, this is only an agreement giving them permission to read and consider the script and not a sale.

Don

Heeding your advice, Teri.

After realizing my script would only appeal to a small prodoc. co. but its' budget was way, way out of thier realm, I 'm in the midst of editing the novel version.

That was the easy part. Now writing the irresistable query/sypnopsis is something else...

Do you know if they had an agent already or maybe knew someone/won a contest?

Besides the timing, just wondering how they received so much money for being unproduced.

Don

Back to the original question...

I would not assume they throw out the unopened query letters. In fact, I recommend saving a copy for at least one year.

I just received an email from a prodo. co. Although they said "no", they did reply... nine months later.

Don

Randy,

Don't know if this is only a one time gig, but Final Draft does offer an AV program. I just looked at the screen shots and it shows exactly what you described.

Don

I have to say I have used psychics in the past.

They're really only for entertainment purposes but it is mind boggling how accurate they can be. Especially when they know nothing about you- such as Steve has mentioned.

Allison Dubois(the show "Medium is based on her), lives here in Phoenix. They interviewed her about the case of a missing girl who was believed murdered. On camera, she stated that this girl's body would be found within two to three weeks. Two weeks later, they found her body- the place was almost exactly the way that Allison described it!

Thanks Ron. Now that makes sense.

The one thing to remember about POTC was that it was so different from other biblical films. There was a sense of reality(and not just a story/biblical fable)using the violence. What also surpised me was that Mel Gibson used sub- titles with a language(Aramic) that is largely unknown now.

I don't even believe the finanicals are well represented either. Many Christian organizations held "free"(some it was a only a small donation)screenings for the film.

Don

The other trend I notice about movies in general is that there is no thinking involved. For example, Apatow's movies let you sit back and relax whereby he let's the movies come to you. There's no thinking involved... the anticipation is gone because you can almost "read" the ensuing joke. Hope that makes sense, the other voice told me it did.

Maybe it is because the younger generation, thanks to the internet, vid- games, etc., there's a short attention span. Whatever the reason is, it saddens me.

That good, huh?

I had my doubts after they were originally supposed to air this series in the fall and then moved it to now.

If you've ever read the bios of proucers, directors, screenwriters, etc. who have graduated from either USC or UCLA film, it wasn't their degree that propelled thier career(though it did help), it was the people who they met in school that jump started their career...

Connections help out big time.

Cody Diablo also wrote a book based on her life as a stripper. That's what really opened the doors for her.

Don

1. Benefits (esp. feedback)

2. Reputation: The success(or lack there of) of past winners/finalists

3. Communciation and professionalism is very important. There are too many contests now that will not even inform you if there is a delay.

Connie,

There are two contests that Blue Cat is running. One of them is called "Blue Cat Lab".

Don

Sorry Ben.

Indian Jones will BLOW all of them away.

Don

I'm with Terry F. on this one.

Rob,

You come on this site to promote your book and then when asked a simple question of how different your book is from the rest, you insult us?

Maybe Ben L. is busy, but maybe you should send Terry a free copy and allow him to review the book. Can't hurt.

Don

30 mil?

The trailer alone could make 30 mil.:)

1. Some of the actors from the first movie are in this new one.

2. The secrecy surrounding this alone.

3. It's Steven Spielberg. 'Nuff said.

Various reasons.

The good ones will tell you exactly why. Some of the reasons i have seen are:

1. Waaaay more enties than they expected.(ie we can make/need more money!) 2. Readers needing more time 3. Processing/administrative work etc.

The same above reasons can also be used to explain why there are delays in announcements.

Don

Hi All!

Just asking opinions of what you think of the 5 by 5 screenplay competition they are holding:

5 winners for the first 5 pages. They want us as writers, to come to development of the screenplay more quickly.

I find it interesting for the books/online I have read, that the usual standard is on average, about eleven pages. IMHO, it would be hard to judge a screenplay based on the first 5.

Winners receive a live reading on stage by actors(like that). Also, given to producers. Which I guess means if they like it, they will request the entire screenplay.

Don

Thanks Lisa!

Thanks Heather for the info.

The CAA threw me for a loop. I didn't think that such a high powered/well known agency would hold a screenwriting contest when I'm sure they literally receive thousands of queries per day.

Don

Just read the moviebytes newsletter and saw that "Serena's Thunder" was optioned.

Congrats and wish you much further success!

Don

Sorry Jean. My mistake.

Had a lot of backed up emails, so I must have got them confused.

Then again, maybe I'm psyhic... :)

Don

Anymore room on the bandwagon?

I and lot of people on this board, honest beleive Jennifer Berg is thee best contest administrator out there. She keeps you well informed- including any delays and the reason why.

Simply put, there is a reason why this contest is growing in immnese populatiry year after year.

I have read that many of the readers are interns. Some are working (or have) on their degrees in film/screenwriting.

You hear a lot of the readers have experience. But really, what is the meaning of experience?

As to age, I'm sure the age range is very broad.

Of course, we really don't know nor are contests willing to openly divulge this info.

Don

Just wondering...

Is there a certain reason why some of you use more than reviewer/coverage service? (ie. one specializes in a certain genre) And is it for the same script or different scripts?

I have looked at some of the fees and having more than one coverage would be a little too expensive for me.

Anyone enter this year?

I entered solely based on the great views by fellow moviebyters on Larry's coverage and I must say, they're fantastic. He doesn't mince words, just tells it as it is. I'm very impressed.

Don PS Just found out I made the semi's

My choice also was #4.

I must be in an unsually good mood for this what I wrote:

"It's more than just a lunch date when a young FBI cadet consults with an incarcerated insane cannibal murderer to catch another vicious serial killer."

Yeah I know...

Don

I agree with Geoff.

For me, I think it was because I already knew the story and that played a huge factor.

I'm not sure if they will or not, but I hope they give us a detailed explanation as to why(whatever the correct logline)they chose that particular one.

Don

Thanks all!

Made the finals! :)

(Insert happy dance here)

Don

"Only in Hollywood" made the quarters!

I'm actually in shock because I really entered this one for the feedback- thinking it wasn't really that good.

Still waiitng if my other script made it or if it's just one email for both.

Don

Jumping on the bandwagon. Although I must say these thank yous are way overdue.:)

Don

Ben,

I'm also quite fascinated on the writing rituals of writers- not just screenwriters, but also novelists:

1. Dan Brown writes and then tkaes a break for five minutes once an hour to do exercises.

2. Stephen King and along with many hours, take a morning walk.

The list goes on and on.

Me? After procastinating of what to write, I make sure I have a beverage(not alcholic), pray that my PC starts up with no problems, try not to be distracted by the internet(very difficult) and then write. All the while, trying not to daydream of what my life would be like as a paid screenwriter.

Don

Patrick,

I'm a little unclear on the funding.

Are you planning to produce and/or direct the movie yourself? Or are you hoping/pitching that the film board will find you a contact that will develop your film?

Just curious,

Don

My apologies to Ben for riding his coat tails on his topic but...

Just wanted to know how many of you and how long, keep your rejection letters/emails.

Haven't heard about this from professional screenwriters but I know novelists such as Mary Higgins Clark and Stephanie Meyer, still have theirs and both say it's in a folder containing over 100!

Me? I keep mine for one year and then shred.

Don

Congrats all!

My scrpt didn't make the cut.:)

Geoff,

Just read your logline, "Aces of Aces" on the MB newsletter. Being a person who bleeds jet- A, I'd like to see that movie made.

Good luck to you and the rest of the QFs.

Don

Hi All!

I know Barb frequents the board but anyone is free to jump in.

Why the change in this year's contest from screenplay to queries? Or will there also be a screenplay contest?

Thanks,

Don

James/Jean,

I'm not sure if this movie was based on her, but Kirstie Alley had a movie on Lifetime(?) either this year or last year, that she wrote and I believe produced.

In the movie, Kirstie's scriptwriting career was over because of her age and thus she hired a young 20 something man to pose as the screenwriter.

Saw about twenty minutes of it and then I got bored.

Don

Hi

Just wondering for all those who have attended in the past. Is it worth it to stay the entire 4 days? My plan is to maybe stay two, three days max.

I was thinking about going but the hotel prices are way out of my budget for the entire 4 days. The cheap ones are apparently not in a good neighborhood and reviewers state it is dangerous to walk at night. I'm not planning to have a car since the parking rates/day are also too expensive.

Thanks all,

Don

Thanks guys.

Still undecided though. I see there are also 2 different passes: 1 that get you everything; the second simply gets you in- everything else is a la carte and not gurranteed.. Lunches due to heavy complaints at last year's, are now on your own.

I think my decision will be based on the schedule of speakers, seminars ,etc. However, it still has not been posted on the website. I guess they're still working on it.

Then again, maybe my script entry will get me in for free. :)

Don

Congrats!

If this does not lead to something bigger, then there's definitely something wrong with world.

Don

Congrats!!

Hope you make it big time!

Have you seen the exchane rate as of late? :D

Don

Dont' forget Lethal Weapon.

That was one of the best scripts I've ever read.

Don

Ooops! Somebody already mentioned it.

I'm not going.

It turns out it's a blessing in disguise for I have a family memeber who has been sick as of late.

don

Mine's way simpler maybe a little scary or creepy but it seems to work.

Everytime I am out in public (I find Starbuck's great for this), I people watch. I subtely watch them and play a silent game of what is this person like? Sometimes you get luck and you catch them in a conversation either with another person or on a cell phone and I hope they say their name. It then becomes a game of, does this name fit that person? I have written three or four scripts using this and it seems to work.

Don

Patrick,

I know you did not intentially to point out Inktip but I knew which produc. co. you were talking about for I saw the same request.

However, I would also like to point out that some of these co.'s are asking for scripts that can be produced for an unreasonable low sum of a budget.

The "End Times"(in the vein of 'Left Behind') request was to be produced to a budget limited to $500K. I'm not very experienced to know about budgets, but after seeing 'Left Behind', there would not be much action and/or special effects, with heavy, heavy emphasis on character.

Just my two cents,

Don

Happy holidays all!

If no one here reads john august's blog(johnaugust.com), I highly suggest you start espcially his most recent post.

One of his most frequesnt questions is what should I do after I sell a script? I won't type out his answers here but he really puts things into perspective specifially, on financial and career wise.

Don

Rachel,

I would also pack a little bit more patience.

Many produc. co's are overhwhelmed with scripts that it takes them awhile to go through the pile.

I and many others, have had responses that have taken almost a year. My advice would be to least hold on to a copy your query for a year.

Don

Just to let everyone know....

Older versions of FD do not have that option. But you can still covert files using freeware.

I like PDF995. It's free and the only thing is to put up with an ad(no choice in the free version). If not, they you cna pay extra but why bother.

Don

Just to let everyone know....

Older versions of FD do not have that option. But you can still covert files using freeware.

I like PDF995. It's free and the only thing is to put up with an ad(no choice in the free version). If not, they you can pay extra but why bother.

Don

RECOMMEND essentially means that if Barb is working for a production company, her advice to them would be to buy your script.

You can do one or both of two things: 1. See Eric's advice and make sure you include that it received a recommendation from Barb and Extreme Screenwriting.

2. Enter a respectable contest and try/attain more exposure.

Congrats! And good luck,

Don

Hi All!

I know some you of have taken classes from one or both of these two respectable gentlemen so I seek your advice.

Both are offering two day classes:

Blake's is more expensive and the concentration is on develping a beat beat sheet using his technique.

Jim's is significantly cheaper but he will talk about everything including structure.

But if money is no object, which one would you take a class from? That is in terms of who is better, respectable and which one would you learn more from.

BTW, my main goal is to simply improve my writing and maybe network a little.

Thanks,

Don

Thanks for the input all!

Yes, I am interested in IMPROVING my writing and not expecting anymore.

I am leaning toward Blake after reading his book, "Save the Cat!". His technique seems very appealing since I do not really do a beat sheet but more of an outline- sort of fly by the seat of my pants.

Don

Jim and Erik,

Thanks for your input. Just one of the many reasons I love and am an avid reader of this board.

Don

Funny that I just started a thread regarding "Blake or Jim...", when I then received an e-mail from Page offering a major discount to attend.

Seeing that with the cost of hotel/car and transportation in attending Blake or SFSC, they work out to be the same so I think I'll be attending for the very first time!

Don

To me, it sounds like they're heading toward more freelance work- another name : contracting out.

It's cheaper and in one sense, varying persepctives such as, what works for one may not work for another.

Don

Sadly, I too did not receive that email. :(

Not saying this is the reason but I think the economy may be a strong factor.

I have in the past have had numerous looks at my logline. Unfortunatlely, less than five have downloaded by synopisis and one requested the script many months later to a disappointing no.

BTW, if you subscribe to the newsletter, you'll see a lot of successes. Yet, many of the writers sold are experienced and/or been optioned.

Don

I recently met a producer and he loves it. He prefers it to unsolicited queries(which he automatically deletes) and producers must respond.

Then again, this producer also has a script consultation business.

Don

Joining the choir on Screenwriting Expo. They're just too inconsistant and every year there seems to be a problem. I'd attend the expo only(though I hear a lot of horror stories now).

Page is gaining quite a reputation so I'd seriously consider that as a possible number one over Nicoll. Jennifer Berg and her staff are class acts.

Don

Dan,

"Who I paid to learn the trade is none of your business. But what I will tell you is this: the people I learned from are WGA union members. They're expensive, but worth the money (to learn the basics). The people I paid for the consulting, are, WGA union members. "

Not to insult or even doubt you, but why not promote them? Or, you really don't have to answer this question either, are they just doing a personal favor to you?

Don

I agree.

A lot of producers say Salmdance is on their radar and not neccessarily the winners/finalists.

Don

In talking to some producers, any contest that has over 6,000 entries, they pay attention to. They'll even pay attention if your script makes it to the quarters- it's a pretty good script for you to beat a lot of other contestants.

So that includes: Page, Nicholl and Salmdance.

Don

Dan,

You're talking about the contest and not the Expo itself, right? I have heard the same thing about the Contest and every year they keep promising it will be better but yet every year, there are still horror stories.

I have heard the Expo is very informative but again, there have been a lot of horror stories- very expensive lunches, schedule too tight etc. etc.

Don

Great advice, Terry!

Never saw that trend or the real reason for a spec script.

Karl Iglesias stated that you better write what you love because that's what you'll be writing for the rest of your career!

Don

I'm in!

Unfortunately, only my comedy made it. The other, a crime/thriller, I did not receive an email so I assume it didn't make it.

Don

BTW,

If it goes like last year, I'm expecting emails tomorow in the late afternoon(PST time).

Don

Anybody had experience with this one?

I know this board has lot of executives(albeit a lot of junior ones) as active members. But this is the first I have heard that they hold a contest and that was by checking out their website.

Thanks,

Don

Thanks guys!

I did a search here on the wsite and there was nothing posted and so I asked.

Stephen/Amanda,

I have also heard of other insider boards that have been mentioned by producers/agents. Though, I have not heard the name but apparently it costs about $300/year and you have to be a genuine isider(they check). Anyway, this site mentions names of hot scripts and screenwriters who have been real jerks. Also, new and creative techniques people have used to get screenpalys in the hands of the execs(eg. screenplay under a pizza in a delivery box). Kind of also a beware site of this particular person. Best thing to get out of this information:

Don't burn any bridges.

Don

Add me to the pile on of "0 for 2".

Congrats John! My understanding is that a lot of producers read the QF's just because you made it this far out of 6,300 +. Good luck!

Don

RIP Blake.

I am still in shock.

After reading his book, I now always think of his advice when writing.

I was also hoping to attend his workshop later this year.

Don

Heather,

I know his latest book was almost complete.

Do you know if it will be released at all?

Don

I had a great opportunity to take a workshop with Karl Iglesisas and this very question came up.

His response was to write what you love.

Sounds cliche but it was great advice. He told us that he knew of a writer who loved to write I believe, it was comedy. However, the writer gained representation based on thrillers. Now all he recevies are assignments on thrillers- he can't stand it and hates it. But he has no choice if he wants to get paid.

The bottom line is again, write what you love. Because that is what you will be expected to write on assignments. It may take awhile and some success(which equals morecontrol/voice) before you are able to write in other genres.

Don

Thanks.

That is good to hear.

Don

James,

It may have been in the original script and rewritten for whatever reason.

Unfortunately, it happens.

Don

congrats Paula!

Don

After hearing about horrible past experiences and now this?! This is just icing on the cake and why I refuse to enter until some major changes are made.

Don

Congrtas John!

Don

Just got an email today of offering a marketplace service.

One of their professionals will read your script and:

1. Offer two loglines

2. A query letter

3. I believe an optional 4 page coverage service.

4. Marketing advice

All this for $125.

This is the first time I have heard of this service and it seems to be a pretty good deal.

Any thoughts?

Don

Congrats to all moviebyters!

Even to those "non-famous" members. :D

Don

I agree, Stephen.

Almost all the contests I have entred this year have extended their deadlines.

Don

I'd personally wait.

They are brand new and I just did a imdb.com search on Andrea A. Albin. Nothing came up.

Don

I like Barb's coverage. Her price is also affordable which makes it a great plus.

A couple of questions though:

1. Anyone can edit a listing on imdb.com, can't they? If so, then anyone can edit Barb's listing.

2. How many writers have worked on scrips and not receive credit?

I agree with Barb, its her successes of the people/producers who she has provided coverage counts. And we may never hear from some of them.

Don

Didn't make the quarters but congrats to all who did and good luck.

Don

Never was a top finisher but a reviewer from Page liked my script but it just wasn't what he was looking for at the time. And yes, he put that in the notes.

Don

Uh... thanks guys.

But this is the first I've heard of this. No email form them or nothing.

Don

Is it just me or is Slamdance not communicating very well?

I didn't get an email and it was only through the greatness of fellow MBers that the semi-finlaists were announced. Didn't make it but would have still liked to know that was announced.

Don

Thanks guys.

Just wished they were better at communicating.

don

James et al.,

If you're also interested, there was a tv movie based on this very subject of "aging"writers posing as someone younger.

It stared Kristie Alley and was called "Write and Wrong".

Don

Congrats Mike.

Funny you should mention the mac. If the price is right on friday, I may buy a macbook pro.

This is my list for the contests I plan to enter in 2010. One is a supernatural dram and the other is a romantic comedy.

1. Page 2. Nicoll 3. Scriptapalooza 4. Story Pros

I have also have a script with an international flavor and judging by the past winners, I may enter this one in:

1. Creative World Awards 2. Slamdance

Considering A Feeding Frenzy but not sure as of yet.

So, how about the rest of you? Which one of you will I lose to?

Don

Oh thanks, Susan.

I forgot about Austin. I'll be adding that one.

Don

I tried the prefered newsletter and all I can say is that it was a big disappointment.

The co.'s loooking are very, very specific and for me, it generated at most, four leads. Thus, not worth the money.

IMHO, co.'s only use the newsletter to get a jump on scripts before they search the site itself.

Oh and by the way:

1. It really was only the logline they look at and so if it doesn't stick out...

2. Its essentially an email blast. So many just flag it as spam or trash it immediately.

Hope this helps,

Don

If after that and you receive no response, consider it a pass and move on.

Don

I didn't recognize any of the names in the finals but if somebody did make it, congarts!

Don

Mike/Stephen,

Great posts!

I also had a post about which contests I planned to enter and may be narrowing it even further after reading this.

Stephen,

Looks like you made a "net profit" last year, I wonder how much HAT TRICK won?

BTW, does ABC/Disney still have their contest? That would be great for a family animation script.

Don

Cheryl,

The beat sheet is effectively an outline of your story or in other words, the highlights. So effectively, its really more of a detailed synopsis so you should be safe with your registration.

It doesn't hurt in re-querying with the updated info. I know in the publishing world, its considered professional nad polite to let them know that other people are also interested in your work.

Of course, this is IMHO.

Don

Thanks.

I was just going to post a message in another post asking you for this.

Don

Congrats Heather!

Best of luck in winning another, minimum $25K.

Don

If you're not giving up writing, then that pretty much answers your own question, right?

I guess what I'm trying to say, you'll be writing for your own pleasure and not what you think that everyone would want.

You may just be rediscovering your passion such as instead of scripts, short stories or maybe even a novel.

Hope this makes sense.

Don

I attended a panel of producers last year and Page is getting quite a bit of atttention because of the amount of entires. If you finish semi-finals or higher, somebody will defintiely notice.

Don

Barb Doyton from Extreme Screenwriting offered it as one of her prizes in a contest recently. And from what I've read, the reveiws are pretty good.

I personally wouldn't buy it. I need to hear the voices in my head.

Don

Congrats Chris!

Don

Hi Guys!

After entering a contest, some producers may be interested in my script. However, I received general notes(from the contest) on how to make it better.

Since every reader has thier own opinion, should I send in the original script or should I do the rewrite first?

BTW, I did not win but made it as a QF.

Thanks,

Don

Thanks guys!

I did plan on reviewing once again but was how big of a change I should make.

Don

Steven,

Off topic here:

I am considering taking UCLA's online extension course in screenwriting and I have some questions.

Would rather have me email you or would it better if I started a new topic?

Thanks. Don

Congrats James!

Here's to a Spirit Award in 2011.

I just sent them a query.

What was their average time to respond?

Thanks,

Don

Congrats Heather!

If at all possible, can you post a logline?

Thanks,

Don

Ditto Ron.

My condolences go out to his friends and family.

Don

Stephen.

How about Script P.I.M.P.?

If you have a script with a woman as the protaganist, I'd highly recommend Cyonsure. I finished as a QF and they were recommending me.

I'd also think about Creative World Awards. They're gaining quite a reputation.

Don

Great post as usual, Heather.

Janet,

I agree and disagree with you.

Personally, I enter contests not just for exposure but also the prizes and like many on the board, feedback. I also pay close attention for the comments by MBers on how well the contest operates(eg,. Expo and now questions about Scriptapalooza)

Just entering in hopes of requests? Well, if you talk to producers/agents etc., they really don't pay attention even if you win in some of them. But almost all will notice; even if you place, the majors(PAGE, Nicoll, Slamdance).

The best way to get a read is what Heather did. You have to also network.

Sorry if this sounds disconcerted. Battling a cold.

Don

I attended for the first time last year. Larry Souffer does put a lot of work into it and it does pay off.

For me, it was my very first conference and I enjoyed it. The regulars and I noticed it also, there weren't as many as attendees as the previous year most likely due to the economy that's all.

The big name was Kirk Ellis and if you didn't know him, all you had to do was follow the flock. I believe he is attending again this year. He taught an advanced screenwriting workshop.

The most popular event was of course the pitching sessions. Many people I talked to only attended for that two-day event alone. But I don't know what the success rate was though several said the producers were very open considering they knew many were pitching for the very first time.

Considering that I was about to take some online UCLA courses regarding screenwriting, it was well worth the money. My four day workshop was with Karl Iglesias and I learned a lot and yes, it definitely improved my writing.

Of course, this is from me who is probably not on the same level as you Irin- :D so it may not be worth your time. And, Sante Fe is not the cheapest area to stay especially in June.

I'm not attending this year. I'm saving up for Austin which I hear is a much, much better conference and for networking.

Don

Don

Timothy,

Can I ask you much it cost to get accredited?

And that of course, not including the airfare, hotel, etc.

Thanks.

Don

Interesting no one so far has Citizen Kane.

Here's mine(in no particular order after Casablanca)

1. Casablanca 2. Rear Window 3. The Usual Suspects 4. Star Wars 5. Godfather 6. Lady and The Tramp 7. Airplane 8. Singin In the Rain 9. Shawshank Redemption 10. Bridge on the River Kwai

And on the bubble... Up In the Air

Don

I have never heard this before and it is not right. IMHO, disciplinary action should be taken.

I have heard from others on this board you may be able to file a complaint with the California BBB.

Can anyone else confirm this?

Don

Great job, Mike!

Just to veer a bit off topic but along the same subject.

In this case, should one get an agent for this contract or would just an entertainment lawyer be suffice?

I am asking this because to me it is better off to get the credit for this be a great opportunity to build the resume. Thus, an agent or manager(if they think it is worth the time and effort) would take too much percentage, correct?

Thanks,

Don

Great topic and thanks gain Heather for the posts.

I'm also planning to attend this year but if it involves renting a car and a expensive hotel, it may already be out of price range. And that's not including airfare and the festival pass.

Don

I agree with Irin.

But most people on this board have gotten so angry with Creative Screenwriting on not only how they run their contests but their Expo as well, they completely avoid them now.

You would think Donovan would get the hint.

Don

Just my two cents...

Inktip does have a proven record of sales.

Don

Wow.

I thought Moondance was one of the best.

Don

Cameron,

Don't know when Bill took over but I was at a screenwriting conference last year and everyone was rolling their eyes at the mention of Expo.

Among the complaints:

1. Too expensive 2. Badly disorganized 3. Very little success

Don

Just saw the new tab.

Anybody try it out yet?

Don

Irwin,

It's a screenplay submission tracker.

I've seen others but some of them charge.

Don

Irin,

It's a screenplay submission tracker.

I've seen others but some of them charge.

Don

Thanks Frederick!

Don

Congrats all!

I'm in with one for sure with TILL DEATH DO US PART- romantic comedy.

Because of the glitch, I'm not too sure yet on my second one.

Don

I'm confused now.

Julie complains about the ranting/trolls and yet she writes for the Huffington Post?

Don

I'm out but congrats to those who made it.

Don

I've managed to talk to producers and they all agree they pay attention to those who make the semi's and above just because of the sheer numbers you beat to make it that far.

But I do know that many winners have at least signed with an agent or manager. There are I believe, a couple on this board.

Don

Congrats Andrew.

I didn't make it. Don't recall anything about the PS.

Don

BTW if I recall the stats correctly, it was brutal this year. Only 850+ made it out of close to 3000?

Am I right in that?

Don

I'm kind of surprised there's no topic on the results.

Anyone else enter or advance?

I didn't make the cut but congrats to those who did.

Don

Irin,

And here I thought I was the only one with an 0 for lifetime record.

:D

Don

Kate,

I'd use that as my opening line in my thank-you speech when you win an Oscar. :)

Don

Double congrats!

Just saw your win in June's Script Savvy.

Don

Try your local grocery stores. The hours may vary but I see a lot of them in my area are hiring.

Also, try the hospitals. They seem to be hiring quite a bit in all sorts of positions.

Good luck,

Don

Congrats all!

Don

Congrats Heather!

I was going to ask if this was one of the ones in the Kairos Comp. but you beat me to the punch. :D

Don

Just saw a funny bit created by John August on his website.

Has anyone used this for a short? I'm considering this site to test out some dialog on my first short.

Thanks.

Don

Thanks guys.

Never saw any price so it must be after you register.

Don

rejection letter + not going to Austin= bad year.

Congrats to all who made it and dang nab it, sounds like it will be a fun party of MBers.

Don

Congrats Irin!

Truly your hard work has paid off. and btw, THANK YOU for all the advice you have given us.

Don

Congrats!

Don

Congrats all!

Don

Good luck and congrats!

Hope you "pop in" frequently and update us on your project and film.

Don

Personally, I'm waiting for the next or the following one. There's just too much hype and too many questions. I'm almost 100% positive Amazon will revise this after this first one.

Don

Am I reading that right? $15 mil?

First, this is in no way a copyright issue. That being said, ergo my issue.

I wrote a script last year that falls along the same plot line (but more raunchier) of a soon to be released movie starring what I feel are two A-listers.

However after some research, this movie was written in the late 90s and was in turnaround for quite a while before it was finally made.

My question is should I query my movie now or should I wait to see if this one is successful and hence capitalize on the hot market/topic?

In the mean time, should I pay money for a script consultant or just save my money?

Thanks.

Don

Thanks Phil.

I think I'll do a coverage anyway if anything just to add the "resume".

The script was entered in Page and made the pre-quarters. Other contests, well... you know how it goes.

Don

Congrats Janet!

And this is actually the first time I have heard of this contest.

Don

Congrats Stephen!

You've been an ardent supporter of this and so I hope it works out for you.

Don

Theo, MD:

The bottom line like the others who have responded before me, VPF is another version of a query service such as inktip, script blaster etc. The only difference is that they guarantee you a response.

What you two want is to change the system. We all do. We'd all like to see a little more professionalism in this industry. But unfortunately, the players are just overwhelmed just not just with new talent but their current clients as well. So a no response is a no.

As for no response on scripts, I too expect that. In fact, check Zero Gravity. They'll request scripts but will tell you specifically not to follow up. If they're not interested, they're not interested.

I am currently using VPF and it is nice to see a response right away instead of waiting six weeks or so. No successes yet. But then again, it still hasn't stopped me from writing.

Don

BTW Theo, wish you luck using ent. lawyers. Some companies won't even respond to them either.

Follow up:

My biggest complaint about VPF is the update on what the producers are looking for.

I've pitched them to only receive a reply they are not interested in looking for that genre even though it stated they were.

Don

Great job, Marjory.

Don

I asked a manager and a producer about this since I was seriously considering a partnership with a friend back in Canada.

I decided not to because for meetings they expect both writers to attend. So logistically it would not work out for us.

Don

Coverage Ink in their latest newsletter did a balanced review of the site. Overall, the writer liked it and received requests. He even compared it to the other sites. But he did add had some credits to his name.

One thing I did not know and this does not surprise me, for every response, the producer/agent/manager receives a nominal fee. Call it an incentive.

Don

I second Kramer vs Kramer.

In fact, a lot of screenplay teachers reference that movie quite a bit. You can probably find a lot of analysis on it on the web and in books.

Don

"Saving Private Ryan."

Don

Why can't it be V.O.? Unless of course, you have characters talking over the tv. Then again, why have the tv on...

The newsman has his own dialog even though he's not seen, right?

Don

According to their website, it sounds like Donna hired a new assistant.

There is also a post about an email regarding the January contest but I never received one. Emailed them to be "put" on the list but so far, nothing.

Don

"Writer's Journey" by Vogler is a much more entertaining read than Campbells.

I would also add Karl Iglesias's book "101 Habits of Highly Successful Screenwriters." Nice look into their daily writing life.

Don

Just received the email today and it pretty much confirmed my suspicion about the new assistant.

Sadly, Donna had an illness in the family in December and left work to be done by her assistant. The assistant did not do the work and now they are so backlogged, they are still trying to catch up.

January results are expected now around March 31.

Don

Script Dude,

Thanks for mentioning "Writing for Emotional Impact." I forgot to add that (its also written by Karl Iglesias). Took his seminar at Santa Fe and it was fantastic.

Don

Well said x2 Marjory.

I believe Donna frequents this board so maybe she will heed our advice and temporarily suspend operations.

Don

I know it's almost last minute, but infolist.com is offering $15 dollar discount off the late entry fee for the Big Bear Lake contest.

Not sure if this is new, but Big Bear is offering three different feedbacks for every entry. Make it to the second round and you receive another three different feedbacks.

Feedback and the discount have me hooked.

Don

New email today.

No April contest.

Don

Discount code is not working.

I just emailed both Bear Lake and Infolist to find out what's going on. Once I get an answer, I'll post the entire email.

Here is the email If the code does not work, you'll have to email Bear Lake.

Don

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Maybe you guys are right.

But that's the point of entering this contest, right? Feedback with entry?

Don

Italics?

Interesting. I was told to never use that. It was always capitals or underscore.

Don

1) Exposure- in terms of contacts. A win or a high placement(depending on contest) is also a boost to the query besides the free query.

2) 4-5. I choose based on feedback and importance.

3)Communication. Timely(I give lots of leeway to this for I understand how tough it is to do so). And of course, delivery of prizes.

4)Commercial. The reputable contests have judges that are working in the industry- readers, producers, agents, managers etc. They find a script they like, they want. Great example is Page. I and many others, have received requests even though we didn't finish higher than quarters.

Don

Nick,

You might as well start your own website/blog. Craig Maizen and John August to some degree, have discussed this issue at length.

Although I agree with you to some extent. Never heard of Dr. Eric until you brought it up. There many more like him who have never been produced. Robert McKee is one and yet he has made a lot of money on his seminars and books.

But I'm with Script Dude. If you don't like someone's services based on their qualifications, don't pay for it. if you rant on boards about this, you'll doing more ranting than screenwriting.

Don

BTW, I haven't used one particular consultant's services(name being withheld) as of yet, but I was leery of him until I met him in person. Based on that and how he tells it like it is, I will be using his consulting services.

Congrats all!

Bobette,

I've been asking this question for years- producers, fellow writers, teachers etc. And that's trying to determine whether my scrip falls into the independent realm.

The best advice I received is to either take a class, join a local producer's group or read a book. Essentially,it's best to learn how to be a producer to determine a budget. Frustrating, I know.

I've also learned the following which is a general rule for budgeting:

1. Animals, lots of special effects, children all equal high budget. Also include exotic locales.

2. Low amount of locations( 2-3 is the max I believe). Minimal or zero special effects and a small cast all equal low budget.

Hope this helps,

Don

Forgot to add:

Low budget is around 1-2 million max. Though I have also read that 5 mil is also considered low budget.

Don

Sheeesh.

Script Savvy(at least they provided updates). Scripted for Professionals. Exposurama.

Who's next? Scary out there now.

Best of luck guys.

Don

They're all good ideas. Decide what genre you want to write and then brainstorm. Whichever gives you the most ideas, write that.

The most common I have heard especially from porn stars is that they were sexually abused as a child and the money. Porn stars don't make much so they strip to make more money.

BTW, I just read where one porn star started out in stripping so she can buy a horse.

Don

Script,

Bit off topic here, I have heard that new writers writing high concept/big budget script will get you writing assignments. Is this true? I've never read of any new writers getting this.

Don

Thanks.

AAA Screenplay announced their semi-finalists and honorable mentions today.

Did a quick scan and did not notice any MBer's but if I missed you, congrats and best of luck in the finals.

Don

Thanks for asking our questions, Matt. Also great interview in the MB newsletter.

My question is: Are the announcements for quarter/semi/and finalists set in stone?

The reason I ask this is because last year(I'm not sure if it is happening again this year)for every round you advanced, the discount/incentives to attend the festival increased. However, I entered last year and the dates seemed to cut it a little too close to the festival date for one to take days off, book flights and hotel, etc. By that time, and even though I did not advance :(, it was too late even I did receive the incentive.

Thanks,

Don

Congrats all and good luck!

500 is a low number indeed. Cost is probably the factor.

Don

Website states it is due to circumstances out of their control. I would assume it is mainly due to the wildfires but I wouldn't be surprised if there was also a lack of interest due to costs.

Sad to hear. I attended two years ago and it was both entertaining and a learning experience.

Don

Scriptdude,

Valid points. But if you take a look at PAGE's winners and the films that were made as a result, would you consider those commercial/marketable? IMHO, I didn't think they were and btw, I believe they were indies.

Matthew,

Not sure if this answers your question but according to the website: Deadline is May 15. Late Deadline is June 1 for both Screenplays and teleplays.

Matt,

Marjory and Irin's situation is a perfect example of my question. If I was in Irin's position and my attending was hinged on advancing, it would be too late to take advantage of the discount.

Thanks,

Don

Irin,

"It's best to make this decision quickly, but I would think you have a week to decide (don't quote me on that)."

Thanks. I think it was the week to decide that had me confused. And for some reason, I thought the announcements last year were later- it was probably PAGE.

Don

Thanks Matt for the answers and thank you once again for taking the time to answer our questions.

Don

Congrats all!

And if I'm not mistaken, I believe I saw Philip Segwick's name on there in two categories!

Don

My apologies, Philip for spelling your last name wrong.

Don

Well said Robert.

I was going to post something earlier regarding this but kept my mouth shut because I've never won. But essentially, stalking someone on Facebook is not right and she had every right to defriend.

Everyone deals with personal problems in their own way. In Donna's defense, there was an email stating that she had left it to an assistant who screwed up badly. Thus, we do not know if Donna is involved in a legal action with that person. Now Eric must clean up the former assistant's mess and try to maintain the integrity of the contest as well.

I for one hope for the very best for Donna and that Script Savvy returns. And I will not participate in needless personal attacks especially against someone who had a great reputation in running a contest .

And the debate will continue....

There is already talk of Hangover 3.

Don

Entered an adventure and short this year.

I'm a previous entrant and Jennifer and Zoe run a great and professional contest. I've also attended conferences whereby producers/agents/managers always mention PAGE as one the contests they pay attention to.

And if that's not enough, look at their success stories.

Don

Forgot to mention that I did not request notes on my adventure. And I believe they don't offer feedback on shorts which is typical of most contests.

Don

Looks like Story Pros made a boo boo and added some more semi -finalists. So if we missed you, congrats!

Don

Sorry. Ignore my previous post. Was thinking of AAA.

Don

Irin,

Much appreciated. But I let you have #1 and I'll simply settle for the enormous amount of requests afterwards. :)

Did he recommend the reader? If so, I would be leery. There is also the possibility that he doesn't read scripts but only takes recommends from this reader. However, you are still paying which you should never do.

Don

Congrats Janet and Susan!

Don

Congrats on the consider.

I also agree with Marjory and Robert. I will also let you know that CWA is a relative newcomer to the competition. They are only about two to three years old. This is also their first year they have included feedback with entry. So it is in your best interest to wait and see and how far you go. A win on your resume looks much better than a semi/first place loser :D

Hopefully, the reader will also pass it on to someone or even his own company will request it. --- I also received a "undecided". But my reader added some notes (which I used to fine tune for PAGE and Nicholl) whereby he liked it(script and marketability) but it still needed fine tuning.

Don

Lauren,

Start a new topic so it will get bumped. I'm sure you will get a lot of advice.

For now, I'm not sure how the tv side works in comparison to movies. But you should not be nervous as of yet. Producers are very busy and it is buying season.

Don

Congrats all!

Don

Most agencies/produc. co's prefer "Query for (Insert title of script here). Some will tell you not to do this because it will automatically be deleted. Others say, if they don't know the subject, they will delete it anyway. Never have an attachment unless requested.

As for addressing, always try to get a name. Sometimes that person will also have a personal email account which is better, even though their assistant will read it anyway. Search for a website and it might even offer an online query form. Other wise, "Dear Sir/Madam:".

Hope this helps,

Don

Actually, I saw X-Men: First Class.

It's good and I don't think it's just the screenplay. The two actors who play Xavier and Magneto are outstanding.

Don

Thanks Timothy for the update.

Please send my condolences to her. I know she has been dealing with this issue for quite some time.

Don

Irin,

A HUGE congratulations.

You have been a tremendous asset to this board not only to me but also I am sure, quite a few others. You deserve this a second time and I am quite certain, more to come. Yes, I am kissing up so I can be one of the many you thank in your Oscar speech. :D

Another thanks for I have been on the fence regarding Abbott Management. Wasn't sure since I could not find any info on deals that they made and so, even though I was asked to submit, I initially had reservations. Your deal makes them legit in my eyes.

Don

I 'm not exactly sure of what your question is.

Are you asking when to enter THE competition? Or a competition?

If you're asking when to enter, Irin is right. Most of the major/important ones- their deadlines have past.

If you have a competition already in mind, there are two views when to enter. One says early. That way later scripts will have to compete against yours and many others. That is, judges will have a fresh mind and if they see a lot of great ones, a late entry is already against the eight ball so to speak.

Some say late. That way it allows you to polish off and ensure your script is in the best shape. Spelling, format and grammatical errors can really hurt you. An of course, it is the opposite of the first view. If the judges see a lot of bad scripts, a late entry can give you an advantage.

Hope this helps,

Don

There are really no competitions at the end of the year for the same reason why it's a bad idea to send queries at that time: everyone is on vacation/break from thanksgiving to after the new year.

There are some good ones such as: tracking b and Script Savvy has their monthly(once they clear their problems). Others have their deadlines before Christmas but won't announce until the new year.

Austin's late deadline is July 1. But if your script is not ready, it's not ready. Or you can enter and order judge's feedback.

Don

Johnny,

In regards to looking for scripts after the holidays, your friend may actually be referring to queries and pitches. You will see quite a few requests in the beginning of the year as budgets are determined. Especially holiday scrips since they look to film/release at the end of the year.

So as Marjory and Irin have said, keep writing and polishing. And Zoetrope if you did not know, is run by Francis Ford and Sophia Coppola. Haven't heard any successes either and there has been some debate as to what they actually seek out.

Don

Just submitted a script to them.

After you submit, a page does come up informing you they no longer provide the notes for free. However, if you wish to receive a copy, you have the OPTION of purchasing it for about $39. I refused and now I am in the waiting game.

Don

7 days early?!

Wow! I've never heard of a contest announcing early before their scheduled date. Kudos to PAGE for that.

I guess I've become accustomed to being late as the norm.

Don

Congrats Matt!

Now that sounds like the norm. :)

Good luck all!

Don

I read Linda Seger's "Creating Unforgettable Characters" and learned quite a few things. Have to warn you, it's part psychology so there are some dry parts but maybe because I took a psych 101 course in college.

Don

Can't make it but congrats on being selected!

Don

Heather,

Not sure if this helps. I also have FD 8 but I'm sure it's the same.

Under Tools > Options > Header/Footer: There is a check box for "Show Header", "Show Footer" and "Starting Page Number". Perhaps, the "Show Header" is unchecked?

Don

Are you guys talking about "Logline"? I had to read it twice to make sure. And yes, it was a general letter.

Don

Good luck in the quarters to all those who advanced.

Congrats to the QF's!

Don

Congrats June!

I have heard nothing but complaints for the last 2-3 years. So unless things have changed, IMHO I would avoid it.

Some of the complaints have been disorganization, too many people and a sense of not being worth the money. In fact, I talked to one writer who volunteered last year and he just rolled his eyes. Said it was just a mess and almost zero communication and so he recommended not to attend.

Don

I've only taken one class so far, "Subtext" and I've learned so much that I immediately applied it to my writing.

My only regret was that my class was not very active in feedback probably because it was only one class.

Don

Congrats Paula and L.J. and all others who are progressing!

I also made it to the the top 850 with two positive reads. It was nice to hear Greg's encouragement of predicting that many of the non QF's will be successful one day.

Don

Amir,

How did you find out?

I know they read mine because I ordered the judge's notes.

But I will not enter this contest again. So disorganized. They had to send out the semi-finalist list twice because they forgot to add people. Also had to wait just over a month to get judge's notes because they (and I quote) "extremely busy because they are in the midst of running another contest(Expo).

And these are the same people who are running the Expo Contest and convention!

They really need to get their act together and if they can't handle both, drop one.

Beth,

Do a board search here for there was a lengthy discussion on it including a couple of members who entered.

Don

Email is out.

Congrats to all those who advanced!

Don

Emails and on website are out.

Congrats to all those who made it!

Did a quick glance and saw Ron Brassfield and Philip Segdwick(sorry if I spelled your names wrong) and to all those I missed.

Don

Just to let everyone know and be clear...

If you take the time to read the rules of some of these contests, some of them will state explicitly that a writer can enter a script that is neither sold, produced or optioned or, have made more than x amount for the script *at the time* of entry.

That means some of contests don't care how much a writer has made in the past for other scripts and if the script happens to be sold/produced etc., they just want to be informed.

So first, read the fine print and if you don't like the rules, don't enter.

Don

If the AAA Contest gives any clues(they run that contest also), they were about 2 weeks late AND had to revise the list because some were left off.

Hopefully they learned from that mistake.

Don

I entered primarily because of the coverage. Submitted another script for coverage(not the contest) and liked his feedback.

The contest was suspended last year and now it is back up running.

Don

Congrats all.

Would love to see mano a mano for the finals. :D

Don

Huh.

For some reason, I kept thinking they were emailing notifications this year. Oh well, I'll check both.

Good luck all.

Don

Congrats all!

Also saw, TJ and Timothy Jay was well.

Don

Oops.

*as well

But I'm sure you guys are well too(and happy) :D

From personal experience, I believe that waiver in Expo is a result of what happened in AAA.

I emailed them four times over a period of three to four weeks asking for my feedback. Three said I would be receiving soon/by the end of the week. I was on the verge of contacting my credit company for a refund due to services not rendered.

Then, an email arrived essentially scolding the entrants. They complained that feedback was delayed because some entrants did not put any contact info on the title page and as a result, they were having problems matching feedback with the scripts. I guess, they don't realize there are contests out there whose rules state that there should be contact info anywhere in the script.

Mine was not a problem along with many others but we were simply lost in the shuffle. After several weeks, I finally received it but too late to enter any other contests.

Don

You also have to remember the reader is probably reading it from a marketability standpoint.

Is it too controversial? Will the audience believe it? Yes, it is fiction but will the audience/reader like your character and root for him?

Don

Heather,

Thanks for the clarification on what to enter. Every year I take a look at this contest and remain undecided on what their definition of "spiritually uplifting" knowing it is a Christian inspired contest.

I have a couple of PG scripts so I'll take another serious look.

Don

Congrats Natasha and Robert!

Don

Sad to hear.

This contest used to be one of the best.

Don

Great advice, Kevin.

Asking gender and race is legal but one doesn't have to answer them. And hiring based on that is illegal.

Congrats all!

Don

Jim Mercurio(runs the contest) is a member of this board.

Nice guy and willingly answers questions about his contest and many other topics.

Don

Wish him the best and honestly, any comedian would have been better than last years hosts.

But Murphy hasn't done anything significant or funny recently- concentrating on making family movies. Expectations will be high at the start of the show but I can see it going downhill fast.

Don

Congrats Irin!

Was this the same script you entered in PAGE and CWA?

Don

If anyone else receives the Inktip.com newsletter, T.J. Cimfel has been optioned and produced for the first time.

Huge congrats!

Don

Congrats guys!

Didn't advance either but mainly entered for the coverage of a new script.

Don

Congrats guys!

Don

Semi-finalists are now up.

Don't know if I made the quarters because I can't find it.

Don

They have a lot of successes but like Nick said, a lot of them were small/independent sales. Also, many of the writers have had past sales/options.

IMHO it is worth the money. But again, your logline and synopsis better be good. But you can rewrite your logline after a certain amount of time to move it to the top.

Listing your contest placement may work for or against you. First loser?

BTW, I listed one in November last year and it was bad timing. Hardly any one searched for two months because of the holidays. You may want to wait until the New Year and get a full six months of exposure.

Best of luck and congrats,

Don

Got mine. Chalk up another one who got ripped a new one.

Anyone else a little disappointed that it was just a scorecard and a short paragraph?

Don

Lana,

Do you write under a different name?

If so, then you made the QFs.

I made it too but they spelled my first name wrong.

Congrats also to Steven Weissman and other MBers I may have missed.

Don

Used Extreme Screenwriting, Coverage Ink and Screenplay Mechanic.

Loved all three but, Coverage Ink and Screenplay Mechanic also gave a detailed market possibility of the script. Very helpful in whether or not I should pursue a rewrite or put it on the back burner.

Going to try No BS Script Consulting. A little more expensive but I met Danny Manus in person and is a straight shooter. I'll give a review when I've done so.

I was also impressed with CWA's coverage that came with the entry. More detailed than I was expecting.

Don

If you enter a contest and you receive a recommend from the reader but did not win or place, can you put it in your query or is it best to leave it out due to the fact that you didn't win?

Thanks,

Don

Thanks for the two different view points, guys.

It's actually a short from a contest that has been 10 years running.

Don

Congrats guys!

Don

Congrats all!

Don

Great job, Marjory.

Loved the foreshadow.

Don

Huge congrats, Heather!

Just out of curiosity, any of them the contest winners?

Don

Script Dude,

Thanks for the advice and like the list except...

I have questions about Scriptapalooza. Not sure what they're looking for.

Like TrackingB but they're a little too expensive and only a limited amount get read by the co.'s

Just my two cents,

Don

Congrats guys!

Don

Congrats guys!

Marjory,

Absolutely agree on the financial issues and that's why there is such a financial discrepancy on the entry fees. All contests do it and in several, (I believe CWA and Tracking B are one of them) have even greater differences in entry fees- the longer you wait, the higher the fee.

Paul,

IMHO, PAGE did address your complaint. Besides the fact that Zoe took the time to answer and research your entry, she essentially stated that no matter what the deadline is, a writer is never really satisfied anyway(very true). And she did question as to why you're complaining now- five weeks after you entered.

I also agree with Marjory that to complain something about this and ignore this contest which is considered to be in the top 5 or even top 3 contests to enter, is short sighted.

Don

Scott,

ALL contests are doing it. Not just Paul.

Paul,

Not preaching. The facts state for themselves. I'm sure you subscribe to several newsletters, magazines etc. They all state that PAGE is one of the ones they pay attention to.

Don

Don't know if anybody else has heard but an entrant in this year's Creative World Awards(CWA) has apparently been optioned before the contest has ended or even closed for submissions.

Of course without knowing the exact details of the contract, would anyone else take the option or would you take the chance at maybe placing/winning and thus maybe getting a better offer?

For me personally, as a gambler/risk taker, if I entered the same script in other contests I would take the chance not only for financial reasons but also, maybe a better chance of getting the movie made.

Don

Read it in the CWA newsletter.

I don't remember where I read this, but I actually heard about this practice some years ago. But I believe it was Disney that has been doing this already for a quite of number of years.

I've entered the contest the last two years and will not this year and quite possibly ever again. They only read the first fifty pages and in both cases, it seemed like two out of the three readers did not read it all for their comments were either way off or very confusing. The third reader's comments were good but had that person read the entire script, their questions would have been answered.

Also agree that it is not too clear what they are looking for. And their communication is not very good.